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On 12/31/2020 at 7:49 PM, baa99 said:

Do you have a cite for this? What I see is that accidents (vehicular, falls, drowning, etc.) is the 3rd leading cause of death.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/are-medical-errors-really-the-third-most-common-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s-2019-edition/

The claim that medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the US has always rested on very shaky evidence; yet it’s become common wisdom that is cited as though everyone accepts it. But if estimates of 250,000 to 400,000 deaths due to medical error are way too high, what is the real number? A study published last month suggests that it’s almost certainly a lot lower and has been modestly decreasing since 1990.

If you do a Google search on the subject, it pops up that medical error is the third leading cause of death in US.  I believe that the probability of dying as a result of medical errors is about 10%.  I don't remember where I got this 10% number but it was from a reliable source a few decades ago.  Here's the eye opener:  if what I believe is true that (1) your chance of dying with Covid is 3% and (2) your chance of dying from medical errors is 10%,  then the treatment is worse than the disease for Covid.  I tried to find this 10% (probability of dying from medical errors) a few days ago via a Google search but no luck.  Maybe you can find it.

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The way things are at the moment,we’re more likely to die of boredom than a virus.

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3 hours ago, khunsanuk said:

Hi,

"If you do a Google search on the subject, it pops up that medical error is the third leading cause of death in US."

And thus it must be true 😜

Sanuk!


 

There was something in the news recently about whether or not web sites should be held responsible for the truthfulness of their contents. Google determines what pops up during a search.  They aren’t suppose to mislead people.

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9 hours ago, khunsanuk said:

Hi,

"If you do a Google search on the subject, it pops up that medical error is the third leading cause of death in US."

And thus it must be true 😜

Sanuk!

 

Yes, I have first hand knowledge of 3 places, that MLG has found on Google and are noted as 'Open Now" but when we got there, the place had gone out of business at least a year ago.

Accuracy ≠ Google

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14 hours ago, zzzz said:

  if what I believe is true that (1) your chance of dying with Covid is 3% and (2) your chance of dying from medical errors is 10%,  then the treatment is worse than the disease for Covid. 

Mr zzzz, if you say 10% of (what ? ) die from medical errors, there is no statistical chance for a 3% deathrate left for any other group of sick people because they are also suffer from the 10 % rule. If the 3 % Covid-deaths are true, your 10 % error-rate is automatically false on the other hand.

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Or for my simple way of looking at things. Add up causes of death and if there is one of them, that we can do something about, then we should do it.

i.e. Three chickens and two ducks are attacking my foot. Yes there are more chickens than ducks, but if I stop the ducks, I only have 3 attackers, not 5...

 

Also

https://usafacts.org/articles/top-causes-death-united-states-heart-disease-cancer-and-covid-19/ 

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This  phantom Medical Errors statistic, that's being discussed, I wonder if the term "Medical Errors" is being confused with 'Unintentional Injuries', which appears in some graphs and stats.

It is worth noting that 'Unintentional Injuries' will include ::  car accidents, shooting one's self in the face, being crushed by a 70" TV after having unloaded an AR15 into it, Thai wife finding out about Gik, etc.

 

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4 hours ago, buffalo_bill said:

Mr zzzz, if you say 10% of (what ? ) die from medical errors, there is no statistical chance for a 3% deathrate left for any other group of sick people because they are also suffer from the 10 % rule. If the 3 % Covid-deaths are true, your 10 % error-rate is automatically false on the other hand.

You tell me.  I’m trying to find the answers.

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55 minutes ago, My Penis is hungry said:

I've been to the doctors 10 times at least this year,

 

You're saying I know have a very high chance of dying next time I go and get a script from a doctor?

No. I’m trying to determine what the 10% is.  But medical errors are common where I live.  

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