buffalo_bill 279 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 Won what ? Did not watch the clip. China is successfully assembling hate all over the World. All the German car manufacturers have increasing problems to find people willing to move there. Africa finds out all their investments establish financial slavery and are the opposite of pure love. And so forth. Who trusts them still? While the US appear to present itself as a giant comedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coss 928 Report post Posted May 19, 2020 CS: you might get Cav's attention with uTube, but for me, three blokes trying to convey the impression that they know something, is time I won't get back. __________ Bubi: My Antipodean, Oceanic view is that, yes China is only in anything, for China's advantage, and yet Kiwis like it, when they buy our exports. The USA however, also . China: US$11 billion (28.8% of New Zealand's total exports) Australia: $5.2 billion (13.6%) United States: $3.6 billion (9.4%) Japan: $2.3 billion (6%) South Korea: $1.1 billion (2.9%) United Kingdom: $953.1 million (2.5%) Which makes a change, from when I was a child and NZ was merely a vassal sheep farm, for Liz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavanami 558 Report post Posted May 20, 2020 8 hours ago, buffalo_bill said: Won what ? Did not watch the clip. China is successfully assembling hate all over the World. All the German car manufacturers have increasing problems to find people willing to move there. Africa finds out all their investments establish financial slavery and are the opposite of pure love. And so forth. Who trusts them still? While the US appear to present itself as a giant comedy. China started screwing Volkswagen, in China, 20 years ago. VW had a sweetheart arrangement with China in that all the taxi in China were VWs. China didn't allow other car makers to produce a similar vehicle so as to compete with VW....until China allowed Korea to compete with VW. Same story with other German manufacturers that opened factories in China, like Borsch, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffalo_bill 279 Report post Posted May 20, 2020 5 hours ago, cavanami said: China started screwing Volkswagen, in China, 20 years ago. Sir, VW has made a huge fortune building and selling cars in China. Still their biggest share of profits comes from there. Other makers achieved only minor results , does that mean being proud of not having been "screwed"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baa99 188 Report post Posted May 21, 2020 VW screwed the world with green diesel engines! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocolat steve 390 Report post Posted May 21, 2020 Greed hurt these companies in China. They gave China advantages they wouldn't give others. Business, manufacturing and proprietary secrets for access to that billion plus market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocolat steve 390 Report post Posted May 21, 2020 Sewing hate or not, who is going to stop trading with China? Yes, there will be some, but enough to dent them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chocolat steve 390 Report post Posted May 21, 2020 Not surprising and China will get away with pretty much whatever it wants. Who is going to stop them? You won't see them kicked out of the G8 like Russia. Too important. Also, they are not doing much too dissimilar than America whose actions they will refer to with a 'What about when America did this?" rebuke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites