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A few friends joined for a sundowner a month back. Friends of same interest and all having spent time in LOS. Ages varied - 40 to late 60’s. We are friends from differing countries. So the question arose - at what age does LOS appeal end? Some of the answers…

1. Never. 2. Time of pension. 3. Physical ability to travel. 4. Financial. 5. Changing priorities of age. What the chaps all agreed was the great memories LOS had delivered. I suppose as we age,the energy of youth and physical attraction slowly changes. It may never be a complete change,however, change it does. 

…from a personal perspective,having lost a close travel buddie to Covid,who travelled with me,from the early 2000’s through Thailand, I do think twice before making travel plans. 
However, travel starts again in 2023,without my travel mate,and I look forward to a cold pint on a beach in Rawai,the three hour massage in the hot spa just inland from same beach,and the countless nights meeting and being ‘hosted’ by those delightful ladies whom never seem to stop with those lady drinks. 
So I’ll return - by myself ✌️.

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I gave up Thailand becase my last lot of kids were all in the High or just about to enter age.


So only way to get them into decent affordable schools, Oz has a great fee education, was move to Oz


It also gave the wife the chance to get her passport, that took a bit under 3 years of paperwork and waiting.


Wife also got the chance to open a business and decide she likes it here.


Oldest girl moved here, studied hospitality and now is perm resident,


Youngest three all doing tertiary studies except last one who is in High School and doing Electrical Apprenticeship at the same time. Bastard gets paid $300 a week for a days work will jump to $400 a week when he starts doing 2 days a week with the electrician.


Not enough tradies so government supports him


So of the 5 Thai's here with me, I don't think any will ever want to return now judging by their plans and conversations.


That leaves me kinda stuck here


I used to travel extensively for work but with COVID that stopped and now I can travel again, I don't want too


Will I go back to Thailand?


I hope so.


All the above will visit this year, my wife will go to Thailand twice. 


I'm a huge believer they need to maintain their Thai identity, but they have little desire to move back, only the youngest who is being asked to train for a national sporting level has talked about representing Thailand rather than Oz, but that's more about how he will advance in that sport.


My Sister in Law was trapped here during COVID, I think she will go home for good.


Good. She's bat shit crazy.


Of the 4 kids back in Thailand only one talks about coming here. she has landed a job at the university she studied at teaching the very tight niche and has a job for life, something Thai's do like.


Getting her here would mean trying to find an advanced Australian manufacturing company, not something we have much of, or studying again.


So yeah - FAMILY -


Will I return once they all piss off?

I doubt it,


Vietnam and other places are more appealing.


Mekong, without the wife, would you prefer Vientnam or Thailand?

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As strange as it may sound, having spent 6 years in Vietnam recently, I don’t really know Vietnam. I was I a small town over 2 hours from Hanoi, left for work at 630am, returned at 6.30pm so didn’t have much downtime. 
When we went to Hanoi, as I said over 2 hours from Hanoi, we didn’t have much time there and usually went to the same places to eat, shop and drink. Time off work, more than 1 week, we always came back to Thailand.

Even though I stated visa / work permit / temporary residence card easier than Thailand, well that was comparing doing it myself here compared to company doing it in Vietnam, when I was working in Thailand Visa and Work Permit extensions were also easy and 90 day reporting was done for me.

Thailand is far more Western shops, Bars / Entertainment such as cinemas, more choice of Restaurants etc, plus if I was single the Thai nightlife is far superior to the Vietnamese.

Overall, even with its hassles, I would say Thailand at the moment 

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With Mekong on this. Out of all the countries in the region I can't really see me living anywhere else. MY and ID are out due to the religion, PH as well to be honest. SG too expensive. HK as well and now basically part of CN. KH, LA and VN still too under developed I think (just my feeling, not spent time in any of them for years or ever). MM, just no.

Pretty much settled here. Last year we bought the house we'd been renting for 20+ years and have spent 3 months totally renovating it earlier this year (and I mean totally :), new roof, replace all electric, replace all windows, new ceilings, re-painted, new kitchen).

As for when it loses it appeal, I guess it depends a bit on what part. The nightlife scene lost its appeal to me 2 decades ago, but I still love living here.
I guess priorities shift when you go from being single to married to having kids to having grand kids (1st one due in about 2 months).


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My 10bht’s worth. I’m for Laos with frequent Thai excursions, so I don’t have to 90 day it. Thai will still be “ big smoke “ compared the Laos, for the medium future. And then easy access to all the others. Lotsa fun all round. 

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