Rozallah Posted June 19, 2007 Report Posted June 19, 2007 I have been with the same Thai gf for 6 yrs of which I lived the first 2 in Thailand and we each commuted about once or twice after during the weekends. In the second year with here, here sister got involved with a Brit and got pregnant. I have known the kid since birth. After 2 years (or so) the father left and can no longer be contacted. The kid is around 5 now and I am wondering whether it will be possible to arrange a UK passport and what the procedure will be. The mother does have birth certificates. Anyone any idea / suggestions? Thanks!
Bangkoktraveler Posted June 19, 2007 Report Posted June 19, 2007 Does the birth cetificate say who the father is and his nationality? And was the birth registered at the embassy?
Rozallah Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Posted June 21, 2007 (Almost certain, but getting this verified) --> The Birth Certificate shows his name and natiolality (British), but it was never registered at the embassy. Cheers, Rozallah
.. Posted June 21, 2007 Report Posted June 21, 2007 If they were not legally married (the case, I assume), I do not believe the child has any right of UK citizenship. British High Commission. Pay particular attention to Note A, which states: A. Women can transmit their British citizenship to illegitimate children but men cannot. Regards, SD
Nervous_Dog Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 Brit law is stil amazingly sexist on this, until only a few years ago british decent was by father only, Brit father legally marries women (Aussie say), children can claim Brit Passport Brit Mother legally marries Aussie Man, children COULDN'T claim Brit Passport. Blair I think chnged this in his first year or the bloke before him did just before the end of his time in power. DOG
.. Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 It was changed 25 years ago. Per my link: An important change made by the 1981 Act was that since 1 January 1983 women have been able to pass on British citizenship to their children born abroad on the same terms as men (but see note A). I find it sad that the Brits penalise the poor kids just because their father was an irresponsible cunt. At least if the father was a Yank, the kiddies could have a US passport even if the parents were not married and the US citizen did a runner. Cheers, SD
Nervous_Dog Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 Australians as well, I thought later than '83 - may have taken time for the public to "Find Out" in far non UK cuntries. Funny story and the reason I know about the above. Old girlfriend mother was a girl of about 6 years old and flown from UK to Australia to escape the Bombing, sometime during the world war 2. She grows up in Australia, marries a Aussie, has three children including my girlfriend, Divorces Aussie husband and then plans a new marriage sometime in the 80's (85/6 I think) While planning the wedding Honey Moon comes up, "Lets go to Fiji" The mother is now in her 50's, and never been overseas except to come to Australia as a child aged 6. Imagine when she discovers SHE AINT A AUSSIE AND NEEDS BRIT PASSPORT! THEN SHE NEEDS TO IMMIGRATE!!!! TO AUSTRALIA!!!! Was a mess! farking funny though, she thought she was a aussie the whole time! Girlfriend eventually took up the Brit passport as the girlfriend was a Flamenco Dancer, studies and performs in Australia and Spain, so a "UK Passport" made working in Spain easier for her than a Aussie one. DOG
Rozallah Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Posted June 22, 2007 No; they were noever married. . . . So I take it that this is a "given"; the kid is in the same position as would she have had a Thai mother & Thai father? --> in other words: I am on a death end trying to go through her fathers nationality? Anything that can be done if the father would show up and be willing to coorporate (providing I can locate and convince him..)? Thanks for all the feedback.
.. Posted June 22, 2007 Report Posted June 22, 2007 Doubtful. But you need to go to the UK Embassy and let them tell you for sure. Regards, SD
redwood13 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Posted June 23, 2007 "British Fathers, who are not married, can now apply to register children who are born abroad prior 1 July 2006, with the Home Office. It must be noted this is discretionary. All applications must be received within the first 12 months of the childâ??s birth. Those applying should expect to receive a decision in approximately 6 months. The fee for this will be £400 payable in Thai Baht plus a Consular forwarding fee of Baht 4,248. Please ask us for form MN1 or obtain it from the Border and Immigration Agency." Consular Birth Registration Also see pinned topic at thaivisa: British Citizenship -redwood
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