panadolsandwich

7 hours ago, Coss said:

I'm not disputing that the sea level is rising, but it hasn't risen 40 cm, or 4 cm for that matter.

Okay good - that's a relief.

Hi  Shibuya, yes what you are referring to is the monsoon and typically the wettest month is October.  It's caused by melting ice in the Himalayas which wends their way to the sea mixing with warmer waters in the Indonesia archipelago.  Gradually the monsoon will progress down under putting out bushfires and sparking renewal for all types of flora and fauna.  In the top end we start to see it in late October, but more likely November.  When it comes it can destroy roads and bridges and if you are unlucky leave you trapped at work until it lets off (or alternatively lucky because  you can't get to work). 

3 hours ago, Coss said:

If the sea level was getting higher, the pitch would be inundated too, but it's not, it is as high and dry as ever and the surrounding stuff gets wet or flooded every time there's a King tide.

Surely I'm misreading this - are you saying the sea level isn't getting higher?  I hope not.  It's scientifically proven to be getting higher.  The polar ice is melting - where does the water go?  There is a global network of tide gauges, satellites designed to monitor this.  Also with global warming the oceans are thermally expanding owing to the property of water to increase volume at higher temperature.  There is absolutely no question the sea level is rising.

Go talk to the good people from Kiribati who recently purchased land from Fiji because their land is going to disappear.  In fact I hear land is cheap there, why not buy some and take advantage of all the suckers who believe the sea level is rising?

But as I say,  I hope I just misinterpreted what you were saying. 

Well the delta that extends form North to South, the Chao Praya delta fed the extensive canal system of Bangkok.  Correct me if I'm wrong but in an effort 'modernize' the city which by many contemporary reports was a 'Venice in the East', a lot of the canals were filled in and paved over.  In the period of Rama V. 

So Flash - what's wrong with more rail lines?  Makes sense to me.  Get more people onto public transport.  It should appeal to people as well because instead of paying attention to driving, they could be reading a book, communicating with a friend etc.  More fully engaged then say listening to an audio book on the car stereo. 

All dutch trains are now wind powered.  One cycle of a fan can propel a train over one kilometer.  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/10/dutch-trains-100-percent-wind-powered-ns.  Thailand should really be looking into this as well.  A good example of an investment in infrastructure that will easily pay itself off over time and less deaths from air pollution (which no one ever factors into capital funding - basically because they don't give a shit, all though simple regulations could make them give a shit).  

Yeah I remember something like ten years ago there was outrage by city people because of all the crop and rubbish burning going on in the north of the country.  It seemed like the whole country was blanketed by smog.  All the water that hits the north picks up the flotsam and jetsam including chemicals and plastic which then flow south. 

These problems aren't intractable.  With education, better waste management, composting etc.  it can all be addressed. 

The problem with traffic can be mediated in the meantime with better emissions standards.  I know that sounds laughable but it could be addressed initially by only allowing the sale of new cars and motorbikes to stricter standards.  Hybrid vehicles are gaining popularity rapidly in the West simply because they're use less fuel, which is becoming much more expensive year upon year. 

Having said that, Thailand have made enormous leaps forward with their world class BTS and MRT systems.  When I got on the train from the airport in Sydney to the city I was ashamed of how old, dirty and debilitated it was in comparison.  I've heard they have plans for high speed rail to Udon Thani as well which would be a very welcome alternative to flying. 

It's a massive problem.  In India and China alone there are over 3 million deaths attributed to air pollution (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2017-11-09/air-pollution-kills-the-most-people-in-these-countries).  Economists, that dismal science call it an externalization or something like that.  Basically the cost of your business is externalized, that is socialized in that the tax payers pay the cost whilst the industry reaps the profits - sounds familiar?

When China started to close down rare earth mines there was an enormous outcry in the Western media.  They said pretty soon you won't be able to buy a phone or a computer thanks to China (fear).  They cast doubt on the reliability of supplies (uncertainty and doubt).  And they played on the name rare because you were meant to believe on China has them (misinformation).

The reality is rare earths are one of the most abundant mineral in the entire earth's crust.  The name rare was simply a description of how much of the minerals were present.  Not much, so hence the name rare.  In order to mine rare earths accordingly it takes vast swathes of land that could be otherwise used for arable purposes.  If topsoil isn't stockpiled properly - which again takes up a lot of space, it will simply be destroyed.  If water isn't regularly tested and monitored before it's allowed to be released it will pollute everything downstream. 

So China, not out of wanting to be a good global nation finally realized that if they can't feed their own people they wouldn't have much power anymore.  The obvious thing to do was to can rare earths.  Almost the same for coal.  I laugh out loud when I hear people praising China for their green initiatives.  They are literally doing it for their own survival.  The amount of arable land is something like 2 squared meters per capita. 

Going a bit off topic here but all this bullshit about China becoming a superpower is the media wanting you to think that.  Their first attempt at building an aircraft carrier was a farce.  There is a good reason they are encroaching on the little isles that are in the international seaways.  It's a trial balloon and the West should address this immediately.  The moment China faces economic sanctions all their power evaporates. 

Anyhow sorry for such a long post, and pretty much off topic.  We are pretty much all paying for the vested interests in fossil fuels to get the most return on their capital.  It's infuriating, you might watch a BP ad and think you're watching a Greenpeace ad.  Both organizations I equally despise btw. 

Well I hope the police are centering their investigations on Patpong. 

Sorry, it is a serious topic.  I'm glad whoever is responsible have decided to use non-lethal force.  It appears the Mahanakorn Tower was targeted.  Anyone here know why that would be?

On 9/30/2019 at 9:46 AM, Nasiadai said:

And they have a lot of busty girls. That was the second big surprise for me.
The Asian girls are all rather flat-bosomed.

 

Cambodian girls are quite busty.  I often wonder why so many guys are obsessed with breasts.  Perhaps they weren't breast fed?  Also if you weren't breast fed then how does that correlate with penis size if at all?  Penis size and cars appear to correlate quite well. 

First thing I look for in a woman is figure.  I look for the classic hourglass figure which most Asian ladies have.  Pear shaped is a big no-no.  If the proportions are balanced I'll introduce myself and get a rough essay of her thoughts, personality, sense of humour etc.  Only then would the size of her boobs really come into any calculation.  And I wouldn't say the bigger the better quite honestly.  I don't believe there is any evidence to support it - but a widely held western belief is that big boobs equals zero intellect. 

It does appear to be rather infantile to prefer big boobs over everything else - but ask yourself, how many guys have you met that go ecstatic about a big pair of boobs?  And this is coming from someone who owing to his appreciation of a busty woman almost was flattened by an 18 wheeler because I wasn't paying attention to the road.  I can genuinely say I was a split-second away from dying because of big boobs.  I might even put a chapter of this into my book I'm writing - 'The seven necessary habits - an exhortation for the world to shag and live in peace'. 

Hi there Nasiadai,

I'm sorry I wasn't singling you out.  I was more referring to the song and it's disturbing lyrics. 

With regard to to the German question you are of course right.  It was fairly recent history in the scheme of things and on a scale that was horrendous, but yes look what colonialism has done! 

Also US military adventures after WWII.  I visited the war museum in Hanoi and was fairly shocked by a lot of the photographic evidence.  The use of napalm and agent orange which is still causing birth defects fifty years later.  That along with the secret bombing of Cambodia which precipitated the Khmer Rouge.  Then the pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan eerily mirrored the Vietnam.  

Just my humble opinion but if they wanted a theater in the Middle East they should have went after Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. 

But the reason I suppose I hark back to Germany was just the sheer size of the extermination, and the sheer determination to enact it.  Six million Jews, seven million Soviet civilians.  I mean all this under the auspices of the German people. 

So when you see any kind of sign of that type of sentiment coming back in German culture, it is frightening.  All this happened less then a 100 years ago, hardly the annals of ancient history. 

But yeah, I do apologize if you feel I was singling you out, as I've described above, it was more the song that set me off.  Anyhow I have quite a few German friends, and really like the culture.  I stayed in Berlin for six months when I was a teenager and I had the time of my life.  And now we've got Oktoberfest to celebrate, so break out lederhosen and the beer steins and drink up!

Ahhhahhahhhaaaa.   A very disturbing song with a catchy tune, considering recent history.  I must admit the German zeitgeist, or rather I'd say conceit is one I find exceptionally revolting.  Yes you are welcome back to the human race, but with songs like this I question if you really should be. 

Hi there Nasiadai,

Actually it should read Who are Pattay-addicts, however I'm a big fan of the recent Sacha Baron Cohen tv show 'Who is America', so yeah I called it that. 

I do sympathize, English is a second language for me, well technically a third language, and I don't claim to be particularly good at it.  Other people tend to think I'm using 'complicated' words and complain.  I read a lot, and it's actually more work to 'dumb down' my posts than vice versa funnily enough. 

I do use slang, which i can understand is frustrating to a non-English speaking person.  I humbly apologize.  And living in Australia there are some rough speaking colloquialisms.  I don't particularly discriminate, I spent a lot of time in Britain, and I'll just as likely tell them tae git to fuck, as tell them to pull your head in.  

In fact I don't particularly like the English language.  One of my favourite words is your German backpfeifengesicht which hasn't quite made into English but certainly deserves to do so. 

But back to the thread - I'd read some true smut on PA about guys basically trying to slip it in the back door on the sly.  My post was an attempt to make them realize what a ridiculous thing it is to do whilst also parodying their clumsy efforts.  It worked - they were incensed and outraged; which was a bit much in my book when you are basically trying to rape a girl's arse (or ass as the yanks will have it).  Can you imagine a guy slapping his chest in outrage for being mocked about raping a girl's anus?  But that was the level they were at - so if I needed  to descend to their level in order to point out the very ludicrous of it - well so be it.  

My cock was huge, if you think the pyramids in Egypt are big, they are merely icebergs to the massiveness of my cock. I put it tenderly to this Cleopatra's twat.

Ceasaer said 'Freedom is just a stupid superstition'. But nah, I don't believe such bourgeois tat. I consider freedom as a fundamantal right, and that change, real social change doesn't have to be dialectical, and that the mode of production will maybe some day be responsible for all arcane social phenomena – and then I nutted the bastard. . Anyhow I'm pumping hard – like a champion, her perfume is there and the accoutrements are jangling in a pleasant way – outside the birds are singing, and she's kind of moaning Marc, please Antony put it in my arse – so as my sovereigned ringed tattoed fist guided it to her puckerd arsehole – I unintentially hit one of the maids milling about and set off a chain of events – or maybe a commotion, as I said before I'm pumping hard and I'm nearly about to come in that sweet arse, nothing is further from my mind then coming in that sweet, sweet arse– then that prick Ceasar walks in with his legion . . .

Well. You know what I mean.

I was briefly a member of PA before I caused such a stir I bowed out, with a rendition of "I did it my way", Elvis style - I think they wanted to ban me and perhaps they did.  Of course I'm a thorny character, like most of you guys I don't tolerate mediocrity. I was surprised when I searched panadolsandwich on google and discovered 7 years after my posts I was still kind of held in some awe there. 

Particularly articulate posts get described as panadolesque.  One guy took some type of the opposite of taking a liking to someone.  I really got up his nose, I suppose.  Still posting shit about me half a decade later.  I do admit I did get to him, under his skin.  Rather surprised by that - he was devastated when I left.  And of course I immediately forgot the whole episode - but it is interesting to see you can create a legacy in a fashion - and then entirely forget about it. 

My 'crime' was calling people out on obvious misogyny , greed, violence and cowardice.  Oh I also parodied one of their stories, which I copied to here for future reference.  For some reason that really infuriated them.  This is a small excerpt, the entire thread was brilliant, I had so-called professional fire fighters questioning the details, before I made it apparent that I was taking the piss, insisting that I'd found a time machine and was screwing Cleopatra before Julius Caesar walks in  - even then a lot of the PA people were bizarrely trying to discredit my 'story'. 

Well I kind of do.  On PA you might read something posted by neanderthal, "I put my knob end against her arsehole and yelped".  So I'm not making this up.  I wasn't intentionally taking the piss out of them, just trying to spice things up.  I mean with writing like that we'll all die a thousand deaths before we ever acknowledge the reality.  I'm a catalyst that's all. 

Anyhow it's a funny old world, it's nice to have a legacy I suppose, and they are burning a flame for me over there at PA.  Just find it amusing I never even thought of them.  555

Well I'm a big boy, but you set a pretty high bar there.  Being up to snuff isn't as easy as it looks.  And as far as the Mangakino Pub goes, wasn't that Jake 'The Muss's local?

Either way I'm always walking in no matter what the trouble, mainly because I'm desperate for a drink.

With chance for reflection, I might have advocated locking it down on a invite only basis.  As mentioned there are numerous benefits to this:

* a reduced need for moderation

* greater privacy (which is oft needed in this world today)

* a reduced burden for khunSanuk

* keep the riff raff out

* long time members increased esteem (there may be some cache in inviting a new comer to a 'secret' club)

Cons:

* closing it off could potentially kill the site off (via disinterest, members passing on etc.)

* newcomers through no fault of their own are frosted out

I think we need to look at the reasons for the site failing.  I mean look at Pattaya Addicts.  Their Barstool Banter page is getting bloody 80,000 views per thread!  Sure it is based on smut and racism, misogyny.  And the whole thing is demented.  

It all depends on what you want.  I for one like reading Flash, Mekong, Coss, Bubi, and others comments.  They are insightful and wise.  If you want quality, come to Thai360. 

I agree Bubi, I'll often book a hotel/serviced apartment for a month and then travel.  The massive discount you get is worth the added expense in my opinion and it's just nice to know you've got a place ready for your return.  Day trips, even five day trips, and because you're recognized as an important customer you get special service.  I pulled up in a taxi with loads of grocery shopping, two crates of beer, and by the time I made it to the apartment all had been safely stowed away in the fridge and the cupboards. 

I've stayed in so called 5 star hotels in Sydney that fail to offer kind of service - for $650 a night!

The major thing that discouraged me from traveling to China was that they wanted all bookings made in advance.  It's just not how I like to travel.  I like to reconnoiter a place before I make plans.  Get the map at the airport, often drunk in the bargain, and work it out from there.  Jesus if I wanted it all laid out I'd call one of those dullard tour companies (that are going bankrupt as we speak). 

BTW Mekong, I hope it's your keyboard failing and you haven't resorted to heavy drugs.  Just saying.

I saw this interesting documentary on Netflix, something like boot training for porn.  To pass you've got to endure a BJ from some sweet looking girl who's doing her best to make you fail before the 8 minute mark. 

It prompted me to embark on this approach because I can see many merits in it.  In fact you can go to one of the several BJ bars to test your mettle.  To combat the 'Tilac too tired' syndrome, simply sub in another girl.  For fun why not throw in a jackpot for the first girl to make you arrive?

I'd be sad, I'm not yet willing to see Thai360 die.  But the devil may care.  I'll enliven the forum if you like.  I've been writing like a demon!

On 7/4/2019 at 6:02 PM, buffalo_bill said:

Today the sun shining again, outside as well as within the Bubi heart. Fuck the Arabs.

So that's where we are at? 

I spent the whole of last night suturing people in emergency in the hospital.  This is in the relative calm of Australia.  I had thought better of you until I read your disgraceful sentiments. 

People are easily influenced.  I suppose I was wanting you to be a nice guy - you've made some entertaining posts with that characteristic style of yours.  You've just gone and ruined it all. 

Bigotry I won't stand by.  And who gave you the wherewithal  to stand up and say these things?  You should be happy that the rest of the world is considering your application for readmission to the human race.  That is if you consider Germany yours, which I find pathetic. 

I have to deal with violence, hatred and vitriol all the time.  I just don't see why I always have to deal with the aftermath of your rhetoric, the blood the pain the death.  

I want to ask you a very genuine question -   why?

Because at this stage, there is absolutely nothing you can do or say to justify what you've written. 

Just enforce the law.  Arrest, blacklist and deport them.  If cost of deporting them is a problem, I'd definitely donate to the cause. 

Also, whilst you may deplore the sale of 'free' hugs - no one of any intelligence would believe that for a second - it's prostitution.  The blindfold is so they can't  be identified in the news. 

2 hours ago, Coss said:

And here's my point - different education systems are as good as different religions when it comes to dividing people. 

Thanks for your well informed post. 

I think why Finland does so well is because they encourage critical thinking, limit school hours and let kids be kids.  Here's an odd idea - teach kids how to learn.  Ask them interesting questions.  Get them to think.

Years ago I was on one of those old minibuses going to my village.  It was a hot day, but the air con was superb.  The roof panel above my head was missing and it revealed an ingenious plumbing system built entirely out of rubbish - old plastic bottles, off cuts of hosing, plastic pipe, even strings of rattan.  I was mightily impressed, but saddened at the same time. 

17 hours ago, Nasiadai said:

Back to Germany:
The vast majority of poverty migrants who have come to Germany in recent years come from backward, undeveloped societies, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and the Arab-Muslim countries of Africa. Only a small minority of these people (almost exclusively young men) can be employed in Germany's very demanding labour markets. Hardly any school education or qualified vocational training. About 90 % (approximately) we have to alphabetise or re-alphabetise (!!!) and then give them two to three years of vocational training.

For many years we have had negative experiences with the willingness of Arab and Muslim immigrants to integrate, as well as with black African refugees, who also have a Muslim religious and cultural background.
Almost all of them are uneducated and unqualified - with the exception of a small minority. They obviously lack in their cultural baggage the qualities and virtues that lead to a successful integration into a modern, very demanding work and performance society: diligence, willingness to learn, willingness to perform, perseverance. Many lack the ability and also the will, e.g. in a company, to align themselves and subordinate, to follow instructions of a superior, etc...
Most of them are unambitious.

A well-known economist in Germany - former head of the IfO Institute in Berlin - has issued an extensive study on 50 years of Turkish immigration to Germany. He did a Vollkostenstudie, a "full cost study". What have 50 years of immigration brought from Turkey under financial and economic aspects. His result: nothing! Plus minus zero.
I ask myself, why do we have about 3 million Turks in the country today from whom we have not benefited and who have not enriched us either?

Sorry for my faulty english syntax

to be continued ...

What you have successfully identified, is that the problem is largely cultural, not intellectual.  You may forget that you benefited from an excellent education (as displayed by your excellent English that you keep needlessly apologizing for).  I agree with you, it must be hard to come to a country and assimilate effortlessly.  Rather then write them off as low IQ individuals, why not educate and train them?  

I find your description, "Many lack the ability and also the will, e.g. in a company, to align themselves and subordinate, to follow instructions of a superior, etc..."  more than a little bit disturbing. 

I completely disregard IQ tests.  When I interview junior doctors I talk to them.  I might ask them what a  gene is or some other innocuous question.  I generally get an informal response.  Then I ask them for a technical response.  Just an example.  Most fail btw.  But what I'm looking for is how they react - do they bluster?; do they foolishly try to string me along?; or do they simply admit they don't know? 

What I'm looking for is honesty.  It's fine if you don't know, after all you're a junior person.  I was one not so long ago. 

The answer often depends on cultural issues - some cultures won't ever admit they're wrong.  Particularly hierarchical ones - sound familiar?

20 hours ago, Stickman said:

Ever so minor correction made. Citation: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html 

https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-per-capita

Btw I don't count Switzerland because they are a tax haven.  In fact you can find all sorts of lists that include Luxembourg, Bermuda, Monaco, etc. above Australia.   But what do they really produce?  Come on Stick, I thought you were smarter then that - and to quote the CIA is odd.

If I were you, I'd be more worried about all the US billionaires that openly brag about  buying up New Zealand land and settling there when the US finally explodes.  NZ should tell them to fuck off and go and fix their own country.  They are the migrants you should fear.  Not the refugees who will literally be subject to genocide if they return to their homeland.  And btw are  just as smart as you and I. 

4 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

More like Israel is encouraging America to fight a proxy war for them against Iran. Bolton and Kushner are pushing for that. Iran is the last major enemy they have.  I don't think they can pull it off though. 18 years in Afghanistan and about another 16 or so years we still have a presence in Iraq. Even Republicans are wary of another war and Iran is much, much harder than either of the aforementioned wars. It will be a clusterfuck. 

The Democratic party as a collective are incompetent at politics. Partially due to the establishment of the party closely aligned with Wall Street and big business, making them not much different than the Republicans. 

Trump is slated to win re-election...slightly. I think he can take Florida again but Wisconsin will be very difficult and I'd say that will go blue. Same with Michigan, Pennsylvania and even Ohio. Depends on who wins the primaries for the Dems. The economy is Trump's biggest barrier to re-election. Most economists and financiers are saying a full blown recession will come in the second half of 2020. If it happens before the election, he'll lose. If he wins and it happens, he'll spend a very tough last 4 years where the Senate will probably flip blue. And the House will become a possibly veto proof body for him. 

People aren't doing well. And to be balanced, they weren't doing well under Obama either despite the numbers both administration are putting out. The books have been cooked for some time. Its a matter of 'are you going to believe us or your lying bank balance'. A Federal Reserve report says 40% of Americans can't muster more than $400 for an emergency. The unemployment rate has been artificial for a couple decades. Those who can't find a job after 18 months aren't listed as unemployed. A large segment of the population are under employed and taking second jobs which makes the numbers look good. 

The plus for Trump is what a recent report said. His most loyal supporters value identity politics and what the symbolism of his presidency  over their financial state. How long that will last we will have to see. There is a breaking point if there is a crash. Just like in 2008. The GOP as a collective lost races state, local and national because they were in charge. 

Eventually though, the country is headed towards a European style, Democratic Socialistic state. Why? The younger generation believes in it. Gen X, Gen Y, Milennials, in their minds, have not seen the value of the present capitalism model in America. For most of their lives they have seen the dot com crash in late 90s, 9/11, 2 long wars that they believe were based on lies, a 2008 crash, no meaningful jobs for their degrees, crippling student debt. 

Those of us older can say whatever, they are lazy, they are soft, whatever, but they have stopped listening and they are going to vote according to how they view the present system which in their minds is broken. Doesn't matter what you tell them. The young people I know are firmly socialistic. That's the future voters. Its a matter of when not if. As the baby boom generation dies off, the younger generation will become more active. I know several children of friends who are volunteering for Sanders and a few others. The writing is on the wall. We can say Democratic Socialism wont' work if that's your view, till your blue in the face. The younger generation are going to try it no matter what. It may not work but they country will definitely go that way. 

I'll take your ideas and use them against you, but anyway.  Where to go?  There is so many paths.  You despise younger people, whom have more skin in this game than you do.  I'm tempted to say die off you belligerent fool, but what's the point?  You will die off - and take your derision and hate with you.  

I'm young, and I will outlive you. I heal people, including people like you.   I'm the generation you despise.  In fact I will do everything in my power to not only tear down the ideals you live for, but to ensure that I will piss on your grave.   

 

 

On 6/26/2019 at 2:33 PM, Flashermac said:

 

I have several friends who married Iranian women in the days of the shah. The women I saw in the States were cool, dressed like American girls and were fun to be around. But the women aren't the ones that installed the mad ayatollahs in power.

No, the CIA installed the mad ayatollahs.  Iranian women are hot.  But more to the point; Iranians have an exceptionally young population that want more freedom, fed up with sanctions. 

A classic move from the US would be to get the CIA to enact a coup.  Except it's delirious with the current leadership, dictatorship.   It's a real conundrum - how to fuck over a new generation of Iranians.  And by the way, the US has proved in an emphatic way that if you don't want your country invaded, the best thing is to have a nuclear program. 

It's very simple, the young generation simply want a guarantee (which they had), we don't develop nuclear weapons and we get along. 

If I was Iranian, I'd be developing nuclear weapons ASAP.  Either that or getting Russia to umbrella them ( and that joke isn't funny anymore).