TheCorinthian

So? He said nothing new.

Curveball: How US was duped by Iraqi fantasist looking to topple Saddam

 

{snip of WAY old news.}

 

 

You know that all came out the first time in 2005 right?

 

 

I am surprised it got reported. Anything over $10,000 is fair game.

No it's not.

All right, so a foreign language is mandatory. But why not give students a choice?

Simple answer.... Lack of money. Hence the grants.

You've been gong too long. A foreign language is manditory in just about all schools now..

And oil negotiations!

Well, it is also likely that the program is set up to pay for learning opportunities that a local system could just not get or other wise pay for. You see it for computer training all the time in the rural south.

I dont think a language class in and of it self is a bad thing. Hell, I WISH my local school had a Thai class back when I was in school!

Would anyone be pitching a fit is say they were teaching German or Italian?

"...Since when is any language other than English MANDATORY in US schools?..."

 

 

Been to California lately? English is really just a suggested language here.

In that districts defense, if it is a grant... then they APPLIED for it.

Gee' date=' HH, ya think that maybe, just maybe, healthcare costs factor into it? That maybe auto manufacturers are happy to have Canada's "commie fucktard socialist" healthcare plan so much that they would move assembly jobs just across the river to Windsor? Ya think??

 

Tighten the latches on your bunker, and chew on that big boy![/quote']

 

 

 

Not taking sides against you, chap, but you would not know it from the BMW and Merk and Honda plants in the Southern US..... All less than 20 years old. And the BMW place in SC just announced plans to double in size. Which shoots your assumption all to hell.

 

 

[color:red]In the South, foreign auto plants are all non-union.[/color] So they don't have to provide UAW benefits, including their health insurance plans.

 

WRT the Canadian trade agreement, that is old news. What is not old news is how quickly medical costs have risen at US based UAW plants, and how it is still at zero in Canadian UAW plants. Worth close to $20k per worker in cost savings. So while Detroit dies on the vine, factories in Windsor continue to not only do well, but expand

 

I'd say "back to you HH", but I have obviously offended his California pension-sucking chicken shit ass, and he has put me on ignore. Gee, i am soooo offended.

 

 

The foreign plants on US soil also make profits which get shuffled back to the homeland, not the USA.

 

 

And pay millions of $$$$ in salaries, shipping, health care, ect. And were all built after 1990.

 

Funny how you forget that.

Gee, HH, ya think that maybe, just maybe, healthcare costs factor into it? That maybe auto manufacturers are happy to have Canada's "commie fucktard socialist" healthcare plan so much that they would move assembly jobs just across the river to Windsor? Ya think??

 

Tighten the latches on your bunker, and chew on that big boy!

Not taking sides against you, chap, but you would not know it from the BMW and Merk and Honda plants in the Southern US..... All less than 20 years old. And the BMW place in SC just announced plans to double in size. Which shoots your assumption all to hell.

They were invited to participate a 1' date='000 times. Fuckin' pussy Obama practically sucked their cocks to get them to the table. And gave in to ANYTHING the GOP wanted, hence such a crappy bill. And the GOP still stayed home.

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I happened to watch the TV coverage (live) of the big healthcare pow-wow organised and orchestrated by Obama. Fucking joke. It was supposed to be an opportunity for the GOP to present their ideas. All Obama would say was something like "it's something to think about". I don't ever recall him saying "good idea". Somebody put a timer on the speakers. Guess what? Even though there were basically the same number of Demos and GOP legislators at the meeting, Demos were given the floor to talk about 3/4 of the time...and Barry took up about 3/4 of that time. So don't call it bullshit. The bullshit is the 2500 page Obamacare legislation. A fucking monkey at a keyboard could have done better.

 

Once again, bull-fuckin'-shit.

 

 

Before claiming BS, this stuff should be very easy to cite from known sources including C-Span.

 

Yet I dont see where anyone has found it or your counter claims.

 

(I have not looked as I think both of you are missing the big picture and focused on minute matters of order. ("Order" as in "Robert's Rules of Order"))

 

This is the problem that I have with the single USA thread - find it really difficult to follow a topic.

 

Finding myself posting a lot less as a result.

But wait, there is not a flat out probation to other threads about the US. I see 5 on the first page alone. Just made a new one myself.

If you want.

But if you read just my posts, which are not very long esp compared to some, you will see that I am for health insurance but not a law that makes you a criminal if you dont have it, nor that will force a small business to either fire employees or go out of business.

...your statement (about supporting people having health insurance but not supporting a law that forces employers to fire employees over the new health law) is extremely contradictory.

Not if you read the previous statements by me and others over the past say five pages.

I think people should actually find out what the rules will be then restructure the business to the rules. I got a feeling this might be a great deal for small business owners who can not afford insurance. They could end up with coverage and depending on how the rules can be manipulated, may come out further ahead.

Make no mistake, I am not debating the merits of any legislation, I am just pointing out what the effects of it have been that you apparently did not know about.

Do I think people should have health insurance? Sure.

Do I think the over all good is served by forcing small business to fire people to stay afloat and comply with the law? No.

REAL WORLD: If an employer doesn't pay for the insurance he will get penalize. The last I knew the penalty is about 2.5%.

BYW, that is wrong. The penalty is enforced coverage per employee. So for 10 about $45,000.

Passing out 1099 to every vendor was one part of the health bill I really hated. Can you imagine passing out a 1099 to a Thai vendor?

 

In order to give the Thai vendor a 1099 they would have to have a Federal Employee Identification Number.

Huh? How do you not read these things?

The 1099 is filled out by the owner!!! At "one every $600 vendor" would be a serious pain, but any good owner will have those records.

What is Germany's tax rate?

 

The USA tax rate probably is higher.

It was easy enough to look up. Germany is much higher due to the VAT.

From what I understood the USA system was suppose to be similar.

 

i.e. Person works in a restaurant:

 

WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER O'BAMA CARE: Small restaurant without much profit or any profit at the end of the year. The employeers cost would be almost zero if not zero. Employee gets sick. The employee gets medical care and doesn't have to file bankruptcy. The insurance company is charged one of the smallest amounts for the service.

Real world: Restaurant owner has to provide health insurance to all employees if he is over a certain number. (25 I think, not sure.) Lowest quote came in at about $1.5k per person per year. At that level, if 30 people are employed, restaurant pays 45k off the bottom line for ins that it was not paying before. Result: If this is a small establishment, restaurant fires enough employees to be below the standard.

One guy I know said he thought he might be able to do it and survive but was not willing risk it so he fired 10 people and became his own cleaning crew and host staff.

What is Germany's tax rate?

I would say the Patriot Act has more devastasting aspects then Obama Care. Why didn't you bitch about Obama Care?

 

BKT...have you had your water well tested for lead lately?

 

HH

Good question.

I personally have no idea what if anything the GOP offered to the bill. All I do know is that I have 2 friends with small businesses (Restaurants) that had or will have to fire people to comply with the law and stay in business.

 

If a child aged 2 owned a car, then he would have to buy insurance...this isn't hard.

You've been in BKK too long. (Lucky duck!)

A child would have to buy or be given the car and drive it to have to buy insurance. If I take the tag off my car and turn it in (Called "de-registering) I do not have to have insurance.

With the health car law, you have to have insurance no matter what you do. There is no exception.

A child the age of 2 has no requirement at all to buy car insurance from anyone.

A child the age of two has a legal requirement to buy health insurance from a private company.

Does he have a problem with states requiring us to buy car insurance? There are a ton of things we have to buy as mandated by the government that would meet the same test as health insurance.

 

 

Actually next to nothing does. As to your example' date=' you have to own or drive a car to "have" to have ins., so there are millions of people that are exempt from it.

 

[b']With the new health care law.... you just have to be alive to have to buy insurance.[/b]

Exactly the same thing. If you have a car, you must buy insurance.

 

If you get sick, then you must buy insurance.

Nope. Before you at least had a choice... Now, you have to buy insurance if you at all draw breath. This is the only and first law that makes you pay for something for the simple fact that you are alive and if you dont, makes you a criminal.

As was said in a recent ruling.... "Never before has Congress required that everyone buy a product from a private company for the simple fact of being alive."

Does he have a problem with states requiring us to buy car insurance? There are a ton of things we have to buy as mandated by the government that would meet the same test as health insurance.

Actually next to nothing does. As to your example, you have to own or drive a car to "have" to have ins., so there are millions of people that are exempt from it.

With the new health care law.... you just have to be alive to have to buy insurance.

Group all of these virtually impossibilities together and the conclusion is the event really can't happen but in this case it did.

Nope. None of it was "virtually impossible." Re read your Sun Tsu. No one was even looking for an attack like that. That makes it very likely