TheCorinthian
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Better to say the media and a few others won't let this rest.
Like they, never let the truth get in the way of a news story!
Well, I'm not sure many would call "natural news. com" main stream media. 90% of it is written by one guy? (2 shitang say he's trying to make money.) CNN, MSNBC, Fox all seemed to drop this one when they actually read the request and did some simple math.
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Powers to be just won't let this rest and it seems compounded that the US gov
just does not give a clear, truthful answer
But that's not true either. The DHS gave the answer posted i think twice above. The real issue is a very few people don't want to believe it.
"US tries to save money sometimes? No way!"
"Cops actually train a lot?? Say it isn't so..!"
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DHS excuse for buying billions of rounds of ammo exposed as yet another blatant lie
http://www.naturalne...latant_lie.html
Responding to a letter from Sen. Tom Coburn, the Department of Homeland Security — an agency that has no business being armed in the first place — says it’s buying billions of rounds of ammunition in order to “significantly lower costs.â€
It’s all about saving money, you see. DHS isn’t arming up in anticipation of a shooting war on the streets of America, and it’s not buying thousands of armored assault vehicles for that purpose either. No, DHS is only buying all this ammo to save you money!
This response by DHS, of course, is an obvious lie. Why? Because a significant portion of the bullet purchases specify hollow point rounds. In case you didn’t know, hollow points are significantly MORE expensive than “ball†ammo (FMJ). Under the Geneva convention, hollow points are illegal to use in war because they cause far greater tissue damage, too. So they can only be used domestically, inside the United States in a civil action, not an international war...
That's moronic. Guess they did not talk to any cops. I dont know any police dept in the US that does not use hollow point ammo. We shot it at the range to because you practice with what you play with. (Also you want to turn over old stock.) I only got ball ammo in the military. But we still had hollow points and even nastier stuff like zip rounds, tracer, and incendiary.
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Dubliner, closed
The Dubliner just moved across and about 100 meters down the street near the Robin Hood.
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The USA was founded wiith the usage of mercenaries. I think if our country wanted to
they could find an abundance of third-world soldiers to fight
as mercenaries in our proxy wars and it would not cost us much in the process.
As for my original question
"What would Audie Murphy have said about expending 100,000 rounds of ammo just to kill one enemy?"
Well, for one that is not what you asked. But either way, I answered it. See above.
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I know a retired Marine colonel who said he started losing people when they saw how much more they could make privately. They didn't re-up when they realised they could do far less work for much more money. Mercenaries aren't cheap nowadays.
That's what happend to us and also why I did it for about a year. (Went back to the military though afterwards, as many here know.)
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Hessians aren't available these days.
And no one liked it when State used Black Water.
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What would Audie Murphy have said about such figures?
"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in war."
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Wow, that guy is a nutball! Thanks for posting!
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Me thinks that like most stories in the media, there is always more then is being told.
It is common business practice to place a large order to get a discount, then rather
then have one large delivery of the item(s), stage it out over weeks/months/years.
It would be nice to see the US gov buting something at a discounted price!
It is worse that a lot of people, including you, heard "1billion rounds of ammo" and instantly thought the worst. Yet a simple Google search came up with multipul items citing credible sources and simple math showing this "conspiracy" was nothing of the sort.
Ask any USMC weapons training Sgt.; the USMC spends about 100,000 round of ammo training for every 1 round shot in combat.... You dont get good shooting 50 rounds every now and then, you do it shooting a TON.
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Not true???
Your link??? proof it is not true???
I ask as their "no answering questions" is making some news
Sure. Google is your friend. These are just the top three to come up on the search. I think the guy saying they are not talking to him either missed the memo or just did not read (or google) it.
http://dailycaller.c...f-handgun-ammo/
http://www.cbn.com/c...ing-Up-on-Ammo/
http://www.foxnews.c...o-many-bullets/
Info on the hollow point ammo:
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Just for the record......how many of the roughly 240k employees at DHS are armed? If 100k are armed, that's 16,000 rounds per employee. I refer again to shelf life cuz if they train twice a month, which is more than what you said is required, that is 2666 rounds per practice session in a year. A year of stored ammo begins to degrade.
Yeah, you're right....I should have thought about this a little more.
btw......the military does not fall under the DHS.
You are right that the military is not part of DHS, but they cross train at DHS facilites. I went to FLEXE just last year for the shotgun course. That was bout 2k rounds right there.
And either way, for comparison sake, back in like 1992, we spent about 10k rounds to learn to shot my 45 when I was with Atlanta PD. You also spend a good 100 a month at the range. (In my day 50rnds was the minimum for monthly qual IF you had a really great score.) Add the two hundred or so you are issued for cary and back up and off duty range time.... as you can see, it starts to back up. And that is just the pistol For me I also had to add the back up weapon... the shot gun and if SWAT, several other items.
While a lowly pistol packer my only need 50rnds a range day a month to just pass, most want to be really good because their life may depend on it. I never saw anyone only shoot the minimum. Plus, shooting guns at targets is fun. Breaking it down 16k rounds per armed agent is about right. And again, remember they do a lot of cross training other agencies.
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Hahahahaha.....airlines buying fuel and DHS buying ammunition are not even in the same galaxy. Fuel gets used everyday by the airlines and won't be wasted. What is the DHS going to do with 20 years worth of ammunition? Doesn't it have a "shelf life"?
You need to think about it a little. Cops and the military train a LOT. How many bullets does it take to teach someone to shoot well? How many to keep them able to shoot at a high level of precision after initial training? Many federal agencies require their agents to go to the range every month and some even more.
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Boy, would I love to get a piece of that 1.6 billion rounds sale profit. Do you suppose that is annual?
I doubt it but maybe. What it is, and has been reported a lot, is what is called "strategic sourcing." Just like how big companies like airlines and shipping buy fuel.
What I find very very funny is a lot of people who claim to have vast business knowlage (some here!) dont seem to have ever heard of strategic sourcing.
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Big Sis Refuses To Answer Congress On Bullet Purchases
Speaking at CPAC with Infowars and We Are Change reporter, Luke Rudkowski, Congressman Timothy Huelscamp revealed this week that the Department of Homeland Security has refused to answer questions from “multiple†members of Congress regarding its recent purchase of huge amounts of weapons and ammunition.
“They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer to answer that,†Huelscamp said.
But that's not true.
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We were out of town when it happened. He took a box of medication for athlete's foot.
I turned the matter over to the Police -- they were impressed with the videos. Three different video cameras caught him in action.Put it on youtube!
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Free video conferencing on the free Google Hangouts platform would have cost him (us) about 75 cents.
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A few years back, there was a similar incident near Waco, Texas...except women and children were in the house(s)
when the US gov attacked with all they had!
Problem with all this is "we" get to "hear" only what the media/gov "thinks" we need to hear (or know).
You seem to forget that as bad as that may have been.... the idiots in the house burned it down themselves.
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The guy was a scumbag, but if I were the home owner I'd be decidedly pissed off. Smoking him out is one thing. Barbecuing him is quite another. Is this the new way to deal with a situation? Torch the place! Better hope you are never a hostage.
You of all people should know the danger of 2nd guessing the men on the ground.
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We are speaking honestly here. These iD laws are only proposed by Republicans and a few of them swing states. They are proposing a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Lets just be frank and honest.
Lets be frank and honest, there does too seem to be a problem:
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http://www.cbsnews.c...ung-minorities/
Study: Voter ID law would exclude up to 700,000 young minorities
http://usgovinfo.abo...Voting-Laws.htm
New state laws dealing with the right to vote enacted since the 2008 election may cause more than 5 million eligible voters to find it significantly harder or even impossible to cast ballots in 2010, according to a new report from the non-partisan Brennan Center for Justice.
http://www.economist...-counting-votes
According to the Brennan Centre, a policy think-tank and advocacy group, around 11% of all American voters lack government-issued photo-ID. That percentage is far higher among minorities, students, the poor, the disabled and the elderly
Each of those is based on some serious supposition.
I wonder why Canada and England don't have those problems....?
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Google for vote fraud youtube and you will gets dozens of hits, videos, etc.
Here's one...
http://cdn2-b.examin...0_5170_Vote.jpg
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx5YyiyWOH4&list=PLF1C1BE733C905D55&index=2
Of course you will.
That is why I say "verifiable sources." Pic is at best fiction base on the time stamp in it alone.
The video..... you really should read the comments, note the date, and brush up on history.
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Ah, the good old USA ...
LAPD manhunt: Some cheer on fugitive Christopher Dorner with anti-cop, gun control, race agendas
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/news/2013/02/08/12476/lapd-manhunt-some-cheer-on-fugitive-christopher-do/
http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/02/08/35876/lapd-manhunt-racism-fuels-christopher-dorner-ex-la/
Well.... He is after all a registered Democrat. {Source: CNN}
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Replublicans have been resorting to desperate measures to try to win elections, but the people are getting wiser to their unfair tactics. They have further to fall in my opinion.
Maybe... But it's obviously not been working and you will still have to show me the voter fraud. 'Cause I cant find it in any verifiable source. Dems however....
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I've been trying to think of the last few confirmed "earth shaking" revelations in the press concerning the US. A few I can come up with might be:
WorldCom financial melt down
Enron
Clinton Gate
AuboGrab (sp?) <<<---This might not qualify as those idiots did it to themselves by posting the photos online. So the press did not break it, they just reported on it.
With the internet making just about everyone a reporter, I think we will see less and less serious revelations by the hard working journalest unless the story is so old that next to no one cares anymore. They will just report on what "the low level accountant discovered his company is lying about its earnings to the tune of $50 billon" and published himself on YouTube and Facebook.