I didn’t vote for Trump in the last two elections. But, if you take away all the rhetoric and just concentrate on concrete benefits you were provide by the Federal Government during the past four years, Trump starts looking better.  I'm better off financially since Trump became president, for example.  Maybe history will be kinder to Trump.

Donald Trump ranked worst president in US history by nearly 200 political scientists

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-worst-president-presidential-greatness-survey-president-s-day-obama-george-washington-a8218721.html

Those smart/normal people who voted for Trump tend to be morally deficient in my opinion.  My guess is that a large fraction of the population can be considered immoral, and a small fraction considered insane.  When you add up the dummies, the morally deficient, and the crazies, you can get the tens of millions who voted for Trump

18 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

It doesn't matter if he's a psycho BB. If almost all the 70 odd million know this or don't care, that's the problem. He was a psycho when tweeting about Obama obsessively for 8 years. Not ta threat. Was laughed at for the most part. Same man runs for president and in his first speech says Mexicans are rapists and is first or second in each primary, THEN its a problem. It's not Trump, its the tens of millions enabling him. 

My take is that people who voted for Trump tend to be dumb, morally deficient, and/or insane.  There are lot of those around.  You have to remember that half the population have IQs less than 100.

On 10/27/2020 at 7:44 AM, zzzz said:

The question is: is there even a remote possibility that, when it's time for Trump to move out, the military/ss/police are with Trump and not Biden???

Trump just replaced some top military leaders.  They think he may be planning some military action.  Hope he's not planning a coup.

20 minutes ago, khunsanuk said:

Hi,

Putin said he would retire next year. Maybe Donald can move in with him?

Sanuk!
 

That may be better for Trump since there is no extradition treaty between US and Russia.  He could avoid jail time.

When this all began,  the initial trusted projection was 1 - 2 million deaths in the US.  The numbers are still way short of that.  We may have a way to go yet.

On 11/1/2020 at 1:02 PM, Coss said:

My Question is, can he pardon himself/others for prosecutions not yet brought. I.e. filed after he's lost?

Also I reckon he will try and pardon himself from investigations - you watch....

He can only pardon people for federal crimes, not state crimes.  So, even if he succeeds in pardoning himself, states can still investigate and prosecute.

13 hours ago, paul101 said:

He gave up the satanism then theosophy, probably no worse than being a whore monger in a dump like Nanaplaza anyway anyway 😜

You've been listening to Trump too long. God punishes devil worshipers severely, not so with mongers.

The question is: is there even a remote possibility that, when it's time for Trump to move out, the military/ss/police are with Trump and not Biden???

9 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

I really don't know why Trump refusing to step down if he doesn't win  is an issue.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/carl-bernstein-gop-senators-trump-loss-125605835.html

Suppose Biden wins and shows up at the White House for the move-in,  but Trump refuses to move out.  Biden can call the military and throw Trump out.  It could get VERY ugly....[hopefully, the military will obey Biden and not Trump at that point].

There is a saying that you don’t have REAL power until they start going along with your lies. It looks like Trump was going for that REAL power by telling more lies than one can possibly imagine but the American people have rejected him for the most  part. 

The pics show protesters packed like sardines.  Los has low Covid infection rate but that could be a super-spreader event.  With only 7 new cases reported yesterday for the whole country,  maybe they need not worry.

There was a defense minister-Rumsfeld, I think.  He used to say things like: there are known laws, unknown laws, known unknown laws, known unknown known laws, etc.  The man was out of it. 😝 

1 hour ago, Coss said:

As I think we've discussed - it's a long standing DOJ 'policy', not to indict sitting president, no laws. Mueller in his report, notes this as a reason he did not (officially), consider prosecuting .

From an objective perspective, this policy,  may be a good thing, not to legally go after a sitting president. Imagine if you had history's best, most honest, and 100% likeable president (no not Trump), litigious mischief makers like Devin Nunes or other f*ck-knuckles could seriously gum up the good works of the government with fallacious law suits, that all need time and effort to deal with.

the law - vis - "In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the President is entitled to absolute immunity from liability for civil damages based on his official acts. The court emphasized that the President is not immune from criminal charges stemming from his official (or unofficial) acts while in office."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_v._Fitzgerald

I'm no lawyer,  the above, is fact enough for me.

There are laws and there are unwritten laws — l use it loosely.

Trump joked that he may leave the country if he loses the election.  Given that he's in legal troubles with IRS and New York (to name a couple), it would make sense.  I don't think he can set his foot in NY again, even though he's from there.  NY is out to get him for felonies.  If it wasn't for the fact that laws prohibit indictment of a sitting president,  he would probably be in jail now.

I was looking at the published odds of Trump & Biden winning the election and Trump was leading until last June when the rioting broke out in some of the cities.  Since then Biden has doubled his lead over Trump.  It looks like the riots were the turning point for Trump.

RIP - I was just thinking about him a few days ago.  I used to read his columns back in the day. 

According to Stickman’s interview in 2004, Trink said he remembered when BGs used to charge 100 baht for the night. Trink made only 500 baht each month back then...so it was very expensive then it seems.

You're a funny guy, Cross. 😁

Maybe a "W" shaped. There is a downside to the governments printing more money to help the people and the businesses affected by the pandemic -- HYPERINFLATION.  A good place to be in hyperinflation is gold, which has been going up lately. Also, real estate and commodities.

The governments have to keep the money flowing to the people and the businesses who have lost money to the pandemic, less there will be more social unrest.  I don't think there will be a major crash as long as the money keeps flowing.  Eventually the people will be immunized or get used to the new normal.  The economy looks like it's in the middle of a 'V" shaped recovery -- the S&P500 lost about a third of it's value last March but recovered most of the losses.                

Forensic -- Netflix made in India: I was very much impressed with the background song that started at point 1:15.  Sexy female voice with outstanding vocals and execution.  I couldn't understand a word but who cares with a talent like that. Just average otherwise.

This pandemic has affected my gaming.  Until Covid-19 came along, I never had a perfect game of Hearts.  Now, I’ve had three perfect games!!!  After posting  a proof of this on a Hearts gaming forum, it appears that none of them had ever played a perfect game.  It must be a very low probability event.
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Eisenhower presided during the golden age when the tax rate for the rich was 90%.  Today, it’s closer to zero percent.  But the rich has the power and the means to make the rules.

In the age of smartphones, videos like that are more common these days.  But stuff like that has been going on for ages, especially against minorities.  That and other forms of bigotry are causing the rioting that is going on.