Uncle Joe

3 hours ago, My Penis is hungry said:

Noce to see you UG - like you I was originally on ASFO

 

I believe it's still going with 2 posts a month from Lonewolf

 

ST - PLEASE

 

Some more!!!!!

HI. Sad, but it had a good run.

On 1/1/2023 at 2:33 PM, short-time said:

January 1, 2023

 

Greetings Gentlemen, Happy New Year! and Welcome to The Morning After 2023!                             

Hope your heads are not throbbing too badly - as mine usually was! If you need a Tylenol #3 and/or icepack it is understandable and excusable. Also, I hope you all got a nice warm stocking-stuffer for Christmas, as I did.

 

Before I continue the bar crawl report, I want to mention a couple of things that are significant which I’ve not yet addressed (much). The first Biggy, is pricing for the BG’s and barfines. Second up, is what I’ll call the Japanese Invasion. A better name might be Japanese-Asian-Inflation-Invasion, but that’s too long. So, I’ll shorten it to the former with the understanding it is largely made up of Japanese, but also includes other non-Thai Asians. As brethren punters, I might also refer to this group affectionately as Tokyo Joes or the Rising Sun.

 

Tokyo Joes vs BG prices, these two are inextricably linked!

 

Since my arrival at the beginning of the month, I’ve been noticing Japanese restaurants and travel agencies scattered throughout the Nana area. When I last visited LOS, twelve years ago, I don’t recall these businesses being there. I can recall in years past, the late-night Thermae crowd regularly included a collection of traveling Asian businessmen. They would invariably be seated at the far end of the bar area. The rest of the punters dreaded these guys as they were often thought to be overly generous with the girls. Of course the girls follow the money, which often resulted in us cheap-charlie’s being ignored, that is unless we coughed up enough $$$ to once again show up as a blip on BG radar.

 

Gentlemen, that’s about what we have in the bars right now, only on a much larger scale! It doesn’t matter if you are in Nanaplaza, Cowboy, Patpong or even Thermae the Japanese invasion dominates, they set the prices and they are the ones you can point to for the high prices. It’s simple; they are willing to pay these inflated prices. Nana and Cowboy are flooded with these guys. Mostly they are younger, in groups of 2-6. Sometimes they are multi-generation with junior (in his 20’s), dad and grandpa. All together in the go-go’s, swilling wagon loads of beer, having lots of fun and of course barfining the girls. Often they can be seen literally throwing fistfuls of cash at the girls on stage! This kind of behavior makes life tough on the rest of us…

 

 

Just a few nights ago I was in Tilac bar on Cowboy. I found the barfine had increased to 1300. A week or two ago I believe it was 800. Would you guys pay a barfine of this lofty amount or go someplace else? Where else? Nanaplaza? Forget it! Same-Same!

 

To make a point, with little effort you can get laid for 1200 or maybe even a 1000 baht using freelancers in and around beer-bars up and down Sukhumvit and around Nana (many LB’s watch-out). Once these freelancers enter Thermae, they double their asking price - since the place is full of Tokyo Joes who will most likely pony-up.

 

When I mentioned here, that a KC1 stunner would cost you maybe 3500B a couple of you growled, grunted and spoke up. From down under Mr my-penis-is-hungry pointed out, he could nail a stunner in OZ for same or less (BTW, is there still an old codger called Paul_C alive and kicking down there in Kangaroo-land??).

 

3500B is currently about 100 U$ bucks. Recall that this price was for top-shelf-tail not your average bargirl. In the US, I very much doubt you’d get a girl of this quality for $100, but for $200 you might…

 

Bottom line is, when it costs the same or more for pun-tang in LOS compared to your home country, where is the value? It would seem prices are currently so high they may be unsustainable. I sure hope so!

Nuff said. Ok, let’s continue on with the bar prowl. I believe I left off with Patpong. But, at the risk of being shot, I’d like to briefly (I promise) return and add something related to the above. You may recall I mentioned Pink Panther had a very nice gaggle of girls. On the night I was there I would rate it second, right behind KC1, with KC2 being third. I suspect KC2 may have been wiped out earlier that night as a result of the Tokyo Joes barfining most of the girls there – as so few were present. I would also like to add that Pink Panther is the only BKK go-go that I visited which was free of Tokyo Joes (didn’t see a one). Perhaps the consensus among the Japanese invasion is it’s just another gay bar on patpong 2, and they haven’t found it yet? Don’t know. As far as prices go, I would be willing to bet PP prices are the same as the KC bars, and in fact, Pink Panther may be a Kings Group bar – I don’t know, but I now suspect as much because of the quality and quantity of the girls there.

 

Ok, Ok, enough already, even I have had my fill of the ‘pong for now.

 

Moving on, how about some daytime action for a change? What’s available in the Nana area during the daytime hours nowadays? Aside from the usual massage girls and beer bars, not much. Eden Club, I understand is gone, and to my knowledge there has never been a go-go bar in BKK open during the daytime. Probably there was during the Vietnam War era, but that was before my time (student-deferment). Since I’ve never really been a massage parlor kind of guy, and for that matter, I’ve never frequented the beer bars to any real extent either. However, these are preferences not rules so sometimes I make exceptions.

 

And, one of these exceptions would have to be the BeerGarden located on Sukhumvit Soi 7. For newbie’s this is not just another beer bar as it has some notoriety amongst punters. Been there longtime, you could even say it is something of an historic landmark, not quite the status of Thermae but similar. In some respects you could even say BG7 is a daytime version of the Thermae, since they are both legendary freelance pickup joints. And damn good ones too!

 

At least they were historically. You know, when visiting establishments you’ve frequented over the years, that are associated with many pleasant memories of the past, it’s sometimes difficult to see them without looking thru rose-coloured glasses… BG7 is such a place for me.  I have taken a number of quality freelancers from this bar in past afternoons, occasionally extending on into the early evening hours as well. I can recall attending my first ASFO Convention meeting here. That would have been December 1999, I believe. That one had a particularly large attendance, as I recall. Surely, some of you fellas are old enough to recall the Y2K scare. All hype, it turned out to be the biggest flop since Evel Knievel jumped the snake river canyon, as the sky did not fall as was predicted by all the experts.

 

This Convention however was only a warm-up to the New Year’s Eve bash that followed a week or two later. On this evening as it turned out, I nearly missed the convention antics altogether even though I had gotten there a little early. Seems there was only one attendee present when I arrived. I want to say it was a Mr. Oaktoad, who is a very fine gentleman indeed, but I can’t recall for sure. Anyway, while waiting for the others I spied a couple of freelancers sitting alone, one of which looked good enough to die for! So, I managed to join these two, again while I waited for the arrivals – none of which I had met. I guess I became enchanted with said beauty-queen as time passed and I temporally forgot why I was there… Suddenly, there was an eruption (not from below) and maybe a dozen or more conventioneers stood up, came to attention, and started for the exit. Realizing I had missed out on becoming acquainted with these Gents, I had to awkwardly confront their apparent leader and make a desperate plea they not leave me behind, while I sorted out the love of my life – as there was no-way I was gonna leave this unexpected prize behind for someone else!

 

Fortunately, the fellow I had appealed to turned out to be none other than a Mr. Sarasin, who just happened to be the organizer of the conventions and also led the bar crawls that always followed. Meeting this rotating crew of the very most seasoned punters certainly changed my life. As luck would have it, ms-beauty-queen had taken a liking to me, so we said goodbye to her friend, and I walked her out on my arm to my awaiting new friends… I felt like Donald Trump with suitable arm-piece! What a great way to start an evening outing in Bangkok!

 

 

Thank you ST for this report. I am also a ghost from the past, and couldn't find any of my old posts on this board: I was not an heavy poster at the best of time anyway. I used to be on the ASFO list in the early 2000's. Oaktoad, the gentleman you referred to, was if memory serves, an accountant in the States for part of the year, and the rest he spent in Thailand, married to a much younger middle-class lovely (female). He had a ladyboy hobby and in his spare time he operated the "Questionable Girls of Thailand" mail list, on the then Yahoo boards. Probably one of the very first board dedicated to lb's, with contacts, photos etc. He was well in his sixties then, and I hope he's doing well.

Sarasin used to bring over (or should I say "lure over" 😉? ) young Japanese beauties eager for a free vacation in the US after he left Thailand. I remember his "how-to" detailed instructions, and it was fairly simple too except of course the part where you had to be a tall blond guy, which he was 😁 However one day, he met his match and married one of these girls, who gave or was about to give him a baby I believe;  I can't remember if she had given birth yet as it may be around the time I stopped reading the list. He was also in his 60's I believe. I hope all these guys who were on the old list are doing well.

One question about the Nana area, as I haven't visited BKK for well over 3 years now: is the Swiss restaurant almost next to the Plaza (on the right when facing the plaza from the street) still around? The food was great, and there were always a couple of older freelancers in there, watching you eat and pouncing when you got to the coffee; they were usually also BG7 graduates, and gravitated between both places...

UJ