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I didn't see a Remeberence Day / Veterans Day thread or I missed it, or I would have posted this there. Its a great rendition of 'Waltzing Matilda'. Made my eyes water.


The song is about Gallipoli but really its a war and song and all who fought in them, both the victors and the vanquished share a very unique brohterhood.


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I didn't see a Remeberence Day / Veterans Day thread or I missed it, or I would have posted this there. Its a great rendition of 'Waltzing Matilda'. Made my eyes water.


The song is about Gallipoli but really its a war and song and all who fought in them, both the victors and the vanquished share a very unique brohterhood.



good call steve....

i became more aware of the song when the Pogues recorded it.

a song which must mean so much in Australia/New Zealand but is a fine example of the horrors of war.....

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Obama visit: Australia agrees US Marine deployment plan


Australia has agreed to host a full US Marine task force in the coming years, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced at a news conference with US President Barack Obama in Canberra.


She said about 250 US Marines would arrive next year, eventually being built up to 2,500 personnel.


The deployment is being seen as a move to counter China's growing influence.


But Mr Obama said the US was "stepping up its commitment to the entire Asia-Pacific", not excluding China.


"The main message that I've said, not only publicly but also privately to China, is that with their rise comes increased responsibility," he said.


"It is important for them to play by the rules of the road."


Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Weimin questioned whether the move was in keeping with the region's peaceful development.

"It may not be quite appropriate to intensify and expand military alliances and may not be in the interest of countries within this region," he was quoted as saying by AFP news agency.


The Global Times, a newspaper produced by the Communist Party-controlled People's Daily group, has been much more bellicose, says the BBC's Damian Grammaticas in Beijing. :redflag:


An editorial warned it was "certain" that if "Australia uses its military bases to help the US harm Chinese interests, then Australia itself will be caught in the crossfire". :susel:


Luo Yuan, a senior officer at the People's Liberation Army's Academy of Military Sciences told the paper that while neither the US or China wanted to start a war, "if China's core interests such as its sovereignty, national security and unity are intruded on, a military conflict will be unavoidable". :chinaman:


Alliance honoured


The US president flew into Canberra from this weekend's Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) forum in Honolulu.


The visit comes as the two countries mark a 60-year security alliance.


Ms Gillard said about 250 Marines would be deployed on a rotational basis in northern Australia from next year.


"Australia will welcome deployments of a company-size rotation of 200 to 250 Marines in the Northern Territory for around six months at a time," she said.


"Over a number of years we intend to build on this relationship in a staged way to a full force of around 2,500 personnel, that is a full Marine air-ground task force."


Analysts said the deployment was the biggest in Australia since World War II.


Mr Obama said the deployment would allow the US to "meet the demands of a lot of partners in the region" in terms of training, exercises and "security architecture".


Later in his visit the US leader is due to visit a memorial in Darwin to honour US and Australian soldiers killed during World War II.


Mr Obama has twice cancelled visits to Australia in the past - in March 2010 as he worked to pass healthcare reform legislation and then in June the same year amid the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.


After his stop in Darwin, Mr Obama flies to Indonesia for a summit of Asian poobahs.


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David Cameron's Australian accent fails to impress



David Cameron's attempt to impersonate Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been described as "so bad it could cause a diplomatic row".


During his speech at the Lord Mayor's Banquet in London, the PM tried to copy her distinctive tone - albeit admitting first, "I can't quite do the accent."


The Sydney Morning Herald called the impersonation "bizarre".

An article on the news.com.au website, called it "perhaps one of the worst Aussie accents in history".


Mr Cameron and Miss Gillard met last month when Australia hosted the Commonwealth heads of government meeting.


At that summit, Commonwealth countries voted in favour of abolishing the rules giving males priority in the order of succession to the British throne.


'Taking the mickey'


Recounting his experience of the trip to the audience at the banquet on Monday, Mr Cameron said: "After the meeting, I turned to the Australian prime minister and said, 'Thank you very much Julia for allowing us to have this meeting in Australia.'


"And she said - I can't quite do the accent but I'll try - 'Not a bit David, this is good news for Sheilas everywhere.'"


The impersonation seemed to go down well in the hall, with laughter and clapping, including from the PM's wife Samantha and his Justice Secretary Ken Clarke.


David Cameron and Julia Gillard held a joint press conference at the summit


However, on the other side of the world the reception was more of the lead balloon variety.


Sydney's Daily Telegraph newspaper wrote: "Prime Minister Julia Gillard has taken the mickey out of her own accent, now British Prime Minister David Cameron has had a go."


Writing on news.com.au, Owen Vaughan said the impression was "worse than James Coburn's half-Cockney, half-American attempt in The Great Escape" and "worse than Meryl Streep's "Ah Ding-gow ay-t my baibee" in the film Evil Angels.


"It's so bad it could cause a diplomatic row," he wrote.


"He was regaling his audience with an account of the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Perth last month - and probably felt the need to liven things up, and maybe get his own back on Ms Gillard for not curtseying for the Queen.


"The audience applauded but it is likely Mr Cameron will face a very different reception the next time he meets a 'Sheila'.


"Let's hope Barack Obama avoids the same mistake when he arrives in Australia tomorrow."


However, some reader comments underneath the article were a bit kinder.


One correspondent wrote: "I fail to see what is wrong with his impersonation of Gillard's accent. On the contrary, his Aussie accent is better to listen to."


Miss Gillard, who was born in Wales, has made reference to her own strong accent on a number of occasions.


Asked by a British reporter during the recent Commonwealth summit whether being born in the UK made any difference to her opinion on whether Australia should become a republic, she replied: "I am an Australian... You don't get an accent like this from being anything else."


Mr Cameron also joked about his white tie dress during the speech, likening himself to an extra in ITV's period drama Downton Abbey, which has recently finished.


He said: "Now that our Sunday nights are empty, this is a pleasure, although I felt in my own circumstances, I rather needed Mr Bates [the valet] to help me out."



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