waerth Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 why is indonesia islamic?...its 1000's of miles from mecca I guess you either missed out on history in high school or are to lazy to read a book on the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 robaus clearly works for the bbc lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Phil, The land you have your house on, used to be owned by my late late late grandfather, I'm coming around to kick you out of your home tomorrow. I'm changing the locks and employing security. The law is on my side so you have fat chance of getting back in, despite what you may try to do. Toodlepip. On a serious note, the arab nations are loving it, they don't have to house the refugees nor do they have any love for them. They are a political pawn used to frustrate the Israelis. yep the arabs use palestine. suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I guess you either missed out on history in high school or are to lazy to read a book on the subject? islamic manifest destiny!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 meanwhile muslims slaughter each other in syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robaus Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 The Gaza Strip is about 2 million people blockaded as collective punishment by Israel because the people democratically elected the wrong government. These people are hemmed into an area 25 miles long, and between 4 and 7.5 miles wide..everything is close to everything else. >>Hamas are notorious for putting their miliatry installations in neighbourhoods with families and children. ...says who..Netanyahu...Fox Noise...?.. reliable sources please. >>Israel try and target military installations ...tell that to the BBC photo journalist whose 11 month old son was killed in his own home by Israeli "precision" bombing. http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-20340810 There have been countless examples of IDF deliberately targeting civilians..try this for starters from the UN Goldstone inquiry under a respected South African Jewish judge. http://en.wikipedia....family_incident "The report concludes that the Israeli soldiers deliberately shot at the family members, as they could not perceive any danger from the house, its occupants or the surroundings. The report bases its conclusion on the premise that the family, consisting of a man, a young and an elderly woman and three small girls, some of them waving white flags, stepped out of the house and stood still for several minutes waiting for instructions from the soldiers" >>The ceasefire never happened - Arabs were still sending in rockets and mortars despite Israel trying to hold back from retaliating. ..pure fantasy. Check your facts. 5 Nov Israeli forces shoot dead a mentally disabled unarmed Palestinian man in Gaza near the border fence 6 Nov In retaliation 3 Israeli soldiers were lightly wounded by an explosive device in the southern Gaza fenceline 8 Nov IDF made a short-range incursion into Gaza leading to a gunfight with militants. During the clash, a 13-year-old Palestinian boy was killed by machine-gun fire, while playing football with his friends in front of his family’s house, located nearly 1,500 metres away. Palestinian militants detonated an explosives-packed tunnel they had dug on the border, wounding four Israeli soldiers 9 Nov More tit for tat rocket/artillery/air strike exchanges 6 Palestinians killed, no Israeli casualties. 10 Nov Palestinians fire an anti-tank missile at an IDF Jeep wounding four soldiers. Following this, Israel attacked civilian neighborhoods in Gaza. In the ensuing 72 hour period, Israeli forced killed 7 Palestinians, including 3 children. 52 others, including 6 women and 12 children were wounded 11 Nov no rockets fired. Pal factions discussing truce. Israel continues 2 days of air attacks. 12 Nov 2 rockets fired in response air attacks 13 Nov Hamas truce holding 14 Nov Israel destroys truce with extrajudicial assassination. >>Thats like someone going to murder a family only to ask forgiveness afterwards. ...at the time when the truce was being offered the only dead people were over a dozen Palestinians. If someone offers a truce, why refuse it, if you supposedly want peace? Think, be honest..when Israel ordered the assassination was it an attempt to cool the situation or inflame it? No brainer really. In whose interest is the present fighting? >>at least the Israelis have been trying for peace. ...LOL...Israelis always go for the Big Lie, and the gullible world swallows it. Check the facts.the present conflict is purely Netanyahu's election stunt..he's manufactured a crisis, just as Tzipi Livni did in 2008. The danger is it may get out of hand. ...Israel doesn't want peace at all, they just want to manage the conflict while creating facts on the ground by ethnically cleansing Palestinians. Every single Arab country in 2002 http://en.wikipedia....eace_Initiative offered complete recognition of Israel within secure borders, exchange of ambassadors, commerce etc, in return for a few land swaps equal to 1967 areas, allowing Israel to keep what they seized in 1948, the large West Bank settlements such as Ariel, and a fudged deal over part of Jerusalem which Uhud Barak had already agreed to at Camp David in 2000. The offer still stands. In response, Netanyahu has never even adhered to the first Oslo accord to pause (for a few months for peace talks) from evicting Palestinians from their centuries old homes in order to build settlements for any American, Brit, South African, Russian, Australian to live in...provided they are Jewish of course. How's that for racism. Obama tried weakly until Netanyahu made him come to heel in the White House itself, showing him that the tail can truly wag the dog if he wanted a 2nd term that is. A just peace is the only one worth having...just a few acres of land swaps away basically. Israel should grab the 2 state solution,before the Palestinians outbreed them in a one state solution, or some nutter explodes a dirty bomb in Tel Aviv. Got a feeling it's going to be the same old story...too little too late. Shalom Inshallah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 some of the most successful societies live in hemmed in citys/countries...hong kong, singapore, japan/tokyo. look, i hear you, the situation isn't good. but do you boycott chinese goods?...i bet you dont and their policy regarding tibet is far worse since tibet don't lauch attacks on china, you just have monks burning themselves to a crisp in protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waerth Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 For Lazyphil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_spread_of_Islam_in_Indonesia_%281200_to_1600%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huumlaar Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 meanwhile muslims slaughter each other in syria. Yes Phil, very similar to Christians slaughtering each other in the UK, conflict was called "The Troubles" and those evil Christians from the UK area called Northern Ireland slaughtered their fellow Christians for a few decades, Disgusting! OH OH OH OH Hey, how about those Christian Germans invading and killing all the other Christians every time they got a chance in the 20th Century? And of course we ALL KNOW that you totally agree with a far wider European Community? After all, just like the Middle East, all those countries in Europe are exactly the same aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasathai1 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 The "leaders" behind this are safe and far away directing their fool stooges to do their bidding. ( pick a side which has the leaders, it really does not matter, same system for one and all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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