migrant

10 hours ago, Mekong said:

Migrant 

But you are missing the point, in any Emplyer/Employee relationship what is expect of each other is laid out in the Terms and Conditions of the Contract of employment. 

I very much doubt that “Thou shall stand during the National Anther”was one of the T&C’s of such Contract but the employers prerogative.

it is like if worked for a Roman Catholic boss and he expected me to attend service every Sunday, if such was not written into the Contract  then I would be well within my right to refuse to do so. 

Now one thing which over rules Contract Law is Statute Law, if I were an Emploter and one of my Employees broke suck laws, Murder, Rape,  International Drug Running etc I would be well within my rights to firs his or hers sad arse, conversely if I was an Emplyee Doing such I would expect to get fired.

i am an outsider (non-American) but I am pretty sure there is no law which states “Thou shall stand and place hand on heart”whilst the Star Spangeld Banner is played. Majority of Americans do so out of a sign of respect to the Flag, the Anthem and the Nation because it is what there fore fathers did.

I hear it said “disrespectful to the Troops”Inam sorry when did the Arned Services have ownership of the “National”Anthem, that is the key word “National”it does not matter if I the forces fighting on the front line, representing a sporting Organisation, working for a corporation or waiting on people in a diner, each and everyone is a “National” therefore each and everyone owns the Anthem.

its like in Thailand, foreigners laugh when the Anthem is played before to screening of a movie at cinemas and everybody stands up, there was a case a few years back when a few Thais asked “Why?”and remained seated and they were hit with the rather antiquated “Less Majeste” a law which is frowned upon by Western Society yet now the US seems to be going a similar way

in the UK where I am from there is the law of Treason, to th best of my knowledge there are 8 grounds, amongst them attempting to harm the Monarch, starting a revolution against the state, and so on but not having to stand and sing the National Anthem, I could beat my arse if I wished pulling a full moony during the National Anthem and only arrested for indecency 

40 years ago when Betty was 25 years Queen the Sex Pistols recorded their versinon of “God Save the Queen”

God save the Queen, its a Facist Regime, no future, no future now, and it was allowed under freedom of speech, they were questioning the. Monarchy and Authorities but made no threat towards them, I doubt the same could happen in the States.

As stated I am an outsider, a casual observer so to speak, but please do not confuse Contract law with morals, if you ever went to litigation with me you would loose big time 

Hi Mekong,

I do see your point but most of the T & C's I have seen (probably not as many as you, but seen my share) usually have some language that states the employee will perform the job given them unless illegal  or dangerous ( or some such language) .  There has been a lot in the news in the past about Muslims wanting to wear habibs, do their prayers and have been fired, or disciplined for that.  From what I have read the results tend to be mixed, some have said religious freedom, some have said detriment to the workplace.  I go from memory on this, no specific cite, I am retired mostly so try not to follow to closely!!

So kneeling isn't illegal, nor dangerous (although after a few drinks can be tricky) and would be freedom of expression, not religion, so would that hold up?  I don't know, and do not question your knowledge and experience.

You are correct that kneeling, or mooning, is not against the law (well kneeling anyway) but is it a part of the job?  

Has CK filed for wrongful termination?  I do not know.

But thanks Mekong for some differing thoughts!!

With his money you would think he could buy some curves.

I guess I view things differently, maybe because I am "old school".  CK (sorry early morning typing) chose to go against the wishes of his bosses, he got fired, period.

I don't really care why he did it, he is entitled to his opinions as much as all of us, but his boss said stand, he didn't.

How many of you would have lasted in your job after telling your boss, "I know you want me to do this, but nahhhh I'm not going to".

He was talented, no doubt, I played college football but would never have made it in the pros, they are gifted individuals.  But did he risk more than the construction worker telling his boss that the job was too far to drive to? The migrant worker who said "I'm not picking today, you sprayed insecticide last night", The IT man who said, "I wrote the code my way, not really the way you wanted boss" (OK I know shit about IT).  Granted, he was a higher profile than other workers, but what, really, is the difference?

I'll admit I have not studied every piece of news on this but I would believe he had plenty of opportunity to discuss his desire to kneel with his management before, and after, and he should have known being released was going to be the result, unless his opinion of himself was higher than those in the management.

I've owned my own business most my working life, only 10 - 15 employees but still.  I used to tell my people that what I say isn't gospel, but I am the boss.  If you disagree, or want to do it a different way, talk to me.  But, mine is the ultimate decision since the business is my financial risk, if I say do this, and you do that, it sure as hell better work out better and, even then, their job is at risk.

Thanks for the link, enjoyed it greatly!!

14 hours ago, Palatkik said:

Ahh in the immortal words of Andrew Dice Clay (paraphrased) "What do you expect with Asian drivers, you can blindfold them with dental floss".  Yes I do mention that to my (Thai) wife and the wounds are healing.

14 hours ago, cavanami said:

Here's a recipe:

https://www.recipetineats.com/pork-carnitas-mexican-slow-cooker-pulled-pork/

I put the pork shoulder in the smoker for some low and slow cooking. Then shred the pork. Put the
meat and other ingredients into the pan and cook.
After a bit of cooking, ready to serve! Use white corn tortillas if you can get them.

I do it similar but like to take the cooked pork out, drain, and put in the oven until I get a little crispness on the meats edges.  Not enough to dry them out though.

Lived in California many years and spent lots of time over the border in Mexico.  Like many foods, the American version can get a little wobbly depending on where you go.  It's very popular in So California and many of our Mexican friends from, as Flashermac pointed out, the south of Mexico cook it.  With all the cheap pork here in Thailand I have made it a few times, very easy and good!!

I lived in Maine for a while, lobstering was, and still is, a big industry there.  Wars, large and small, popped up all the time including some killings

Hopefully he stays positive when he keels over from hunger

3 hours ago, Coss said:

I would comment, but as this is not strictly about Thailand or bizarre pornographic practises or pornography, I'll refrain.

Well it could be for creative people!!

That academy award nominated film (I think it was, couldn't find it though) Cowboys and Aliens.  Wonder what pictures the studio execs had on Daniel Craig and Harrison ford to get them in this flick.

Despite that, god help me, I found it amusing.

Except...if you scroll down the page from the top ( like I did ) , you read the top line before seeing the rest of the pic.

Still read it wrong

If you bought a NZ woman a Fiat 500, she'd prostrate herself before you and exude gratitude from every orifice, such is our Antipodean awe for things made by workers of other, particularly European countries.

That's why! I always pictured NZ women like the only other New Zealandites I know, small Lord of the Ring types. Figured they liked small cars due to that.

Good Morning Vietnam broadcaster dies

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/1506406/good-morning-vietnam-broadcaster-dies

Another great one!

I thought the best way is to ask the first Lady you meet to do the finances? Let her have all the money to pay the bills since it's her country. No wonder my trips are cut short!

Where else would you put them.

I see that the taxi drivers keep the phone plug into their cigarette lighter. I presume that's to save the battery.

 

p.s. I got lost once when I strayed into a residential area in eastern Bangkok. It was pitch black put and a moonless night, so I couldn't even tell which direction was north or south. Took me two hours of driving around and following "directions" given by Thais, until I finally saw a sign pointing to Asoke. Then I knew where I was and followed Sukhumwit back into familiar territory.

 

p.p.s. Thai directions: "Go straight ahead, then turn left, then turn right." Oh, yeah, big help. Go straight HOW FAR? Turn left WHERE? Turn right WHERE?

Sounds like directions I got in Costa Rica once, " Turn right at yellow building, go to blue and white building turn right." Hey, it's frickin night time and the street lights are shit!!

Oh, the horror....

The Sweeny with Ray Winstone.

Cop movie about a squad of cops that don't follow the rules.

I liked it, but I like anything with Winstone.

Could use subtitles for us Yanks though....

OTOH if I am an expat ( a retired one) with health insurance in Thailand, I now need travel insurance to travel to Belgium......

How about that ?

 

BB

traveling in 2 weeks

Many insurers cover travel to a foreign country for a limited number of days. Perhaps check with your agent, or, ugh, read the policy.

I first read this,

 

A refreshing take, on the hard man does martial arts and kills everyone, movies.

 

as,

 

A refreshing take, on the hard man does marital arts and kills everyone, movies.

If it was marital I may have watched it!!