Steve

Michelle is a NASCAR fan? Did she think the Bubbas and Bubbettes would welcome her presence? Certainly it is wrong, but if it were going to happen anywhere ...

 

p.s. You are probably not old enough to remember when Ertha Kitt stood up at a White House dinner and told off Lady Bird Johnson over the Vietnam War. Come to think of it, you are probably not old enough to remember Ertha Kitt or Lady Bird Johnson.

The NASCAR crowd is not one of Obama's niches but they can't say he didn't send someone. Actually, I know who both are...lol. Eartha Kit was once the catwoman on the campy Batman series. The re-runs was on this UHF (remember those?) channels as a kid. She also had a bit part in an Eddie Murphy movie called Boomerang (good movie btw). LadyBird Johnson, I'm a bit of a presidential historian so I know who the first ladies are for the most part. Don't know any thing of note about her. Eartha kit was dead wrong for doing that. Respect the position if you can't the person. Just like ranked officer in the military. Respect the rank, if not the person.

Its disrepsectful. Whoever was booing. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was after reading the headlines. As much as I hated Bush and Cheney I never would have booed them or their wives. Maybe I'm a bit too old school.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/first-lady-booed-nascar-race-213624075.html

First Lady booed at NASCAR race

Here's a different take on Michelle Obama. 5555555555555555

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrXE7NbYpU

 

HH

LOL..this guy is a joke. Who is he? He's trying to be the black Rush Limbaugh and say controversial things?

Michelle becomes cheerleader. She does the position of Firs Lady proud. She's intelligent, commands respect and a great role model. Laura Bush came off as a very sweet lady herself.

There is a line with wives on the campaign trail. Its a fine one. They are off limits IF they don't cross a certain line.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/us/politics/michelle-obamas-mission-energizing-the-campaign.html?_r=2&hpw

I think both (cuts and spending) are necessary. Targeted cuts are needed. I don't agree with the slash and burn, scorned earth conservative view of cutting government spending. There are programs that not only don't need to be cut but increased. Waste and redundency in any area needs to be cut.

The private sector is simply not hiring. Its not because of high taxes and oppressive reguations either (although certain industries and niches can stand some changes). No, companies are pocketing the profits and not expanding due to a pessimistic view of the future the economy.

Massive government spending on infrastructure would create American jobs in American companies and provide millions of blue collar and middle class jobs. Boths bricks and mortar jobs like bridges, tunnelss, high speed train lines and roads as well as higher tech jobs like high speed internt access for the rest of the country, green jobs as well. Incentives to convert our economy from an oil based one to hybrid cars.

Encourage keeping dollars in America instead of spending it on overseas traveling by lowering and in some cases eliminating fees for use of national parks and places like the smithsonian, etc. Encourage the states to do it as well and promote the hell out of it such as the widely successful 'I love New York' ad campaign of the '70s and '80s. Make these places 'family friendly' by having a 'family package' pricing as well as for school trips with 'school trip package' pricing. Provide tax incentives for private tourist destinations such as disneyland, etc. for family and school trip pricing reductions. Reduce tourist visa fees and promote American tourist destinations to Europe and Asia. Form a true government/private sector parnership for tourism with cross-promotional packages that would see a one fee package for hotel and sites to various cities and tourist attractions. Promote it on overseas tv. Statue of Liberty, Disneyland/World, national parks, Hawaii. Airlines, hotels can get promoted at our embassies as well as online if they participate in this tourism packaging push in a one stop tourism package.

Combine all this with a massive reduction in overseas miitary bases and troops.

These expenditures in tax breaks, reductions, domestic spending will cost but the combination of spending cuts and the revenue that the new jobs will provide should, over time, see higher consumer spending and encourage companies to spend more on hiring because they have a rosier outlook on the future.

One wee bit of a thread of hope the USA may survive afterall.

http://news.yahoo.com/patriotic-millionaires-beg-supercommittee-higher-taxes-185620525.html

'Patriotic Millionaires' Beg Supercommittee for Higher Taxes

Two dozen wealthy members of the group Patriotic Millionaires for Fiscal Strength are targeting members of the deficit "supercommittee" to increase their taxes.

Land of the formerly free and home of the apathetic

Congress still considering Internet censorship!

http://www.tgdaily.com/opinion-features/52530-congress-still-considering-internet-censorship

Extremely sad and disconcerting to see a Democratic President continuing the erosion of our civil liberties.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/11/us-verdict-privacy-wikileaks-twitter

Is the whole damned world going gay???

 

 

 

Benneton

I grabbed and kissed Warren Buffet like that once and it took 500k for him to get the negatives of the pics.

Surprised none of us posted the Penn State child sex story or maybe it was and I didn't see it.

Sad...so sad. Heard a sick joke about it though, okay bad taste and I know I will be skewered but '...an older woman who chases young men is called a cougar, an older man who chases young boys is called a Nittany Lion'

The assistant coach who caught him should have done more. I know Paterno and all who are involved have history with the alleged perpetrator but c'mon. Maybe its tough to say what I would if I had known the Sandusky for such a long time and worked together for so long but I'm sure I'd have confronted him personally and tell him a) what the fck you doing and this out of friendship, get a lawyer right now, this has to go to the cops. and c) get help now and I'd have had some places in mind.

I'm sure there were abused kids where I lived. Some things as a kid you just kinda knew. There was a very close friend of the family that we called our uncle but wasn't a blood uncle who grew up with my uncles who us kids just automatically knew you didn't find yourself alone with. He looked at you 'funny'. There are many such cases where people suspect or have a pretty good idea but all adults do is make sure he's never alone with kids. which isn't always effective.

The media

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl7sWtUu1Fc&feature=share

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/starbucks-drops-bean-surcharge-195519437.html

The Seattle coffee company eliminated the fee at its stores nationwide this month after a Massachusetts consumer-protection agency fined the company over the practice.

The Massachusetts Office of Consumer Affairs and Business Regulation found in August that the coffee chain failed to notify customers either in the store or on their receipts that it was adding a surcharge of about $1.50 for buying a partial bag of beans.

Starbucks allows customers to buy a less than the traditional one-pound bag of beans. But doing so requires an employee to break open a pre-sealed bag to sell customers a portion size of their choosing. Starbucks would then charge the customer for the portion of beans, plus a roughly $1.50 fee to cover the extra labor and packaging

That meant beans listed at $11.95 per pound ended up costing $7.45 for a half-pound — not $5.98, or half the price.

Under Massachusetts law, retailers are required to post signs in the store notifying customers of surcharges, or employees must tell them.

I've always thought if I were to run a company I'd like it to be as honest as possible. Maybe pie in the sky thinking and economic realities would make me do things differently but I'd like to think that I would. I'm a firm believer in reputation and it just seems good business to have a solid reputatin for fairness, etc.

Neighborhood stores in my area as a kid were like that. Everyone knew each other and there was an honor code. My mom would send me down to the corner market for meat or whatever with a message to put it on her 'account'. You squared up with him after payday. The grocer knew we all struggled and waited for payday and for some folks, their welfare checks. No one didn't pay, your good name meant everything to you. Those days are long gone now.

The longing for his father is a classic psychological thing. Adopted kids or foster kids go out searching for biological parents that are very imperfect, to use kind words, all the time. My understanding during the campaign was that he was very close to his mother and grandmother. The book seems to note a phase in his life not a lasting feeling.

Sons especially feel a need to want to prove themselves to fathers who abandoned them or never believed in them. My oldest brother and father was estranged for a few years after my brother came back from Vietnam. They are as close as ever now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/14/tom-coburn-30-billion-millionaires-tax-breaks_n_1092692.html

Tom Coburn: $30 Billion In Millionaires Aid Is 'Sheer Washington Stupidity'

Cav, the important thing is, is this his view now? If so, then most certainly, one should question whether or not he represents all Americans. However the evidence is that he has a broad spectrum of people, many of whom are Republican and most white. His former chief of staff Jewish. Holder is the only Black of prominence I can think of.

My senior year in HS I read Malcolm X's autobiography and started calling myself Rashad Ahmad Sa'id for a few months. I had that similar 'rage' but it was the folly of youth. Anyone who knows me now couldn't imagine that in me I suppose.

Obama is firmly establishment. Wall Street money up the ying yang, the make up of his administration, his centrist policies. His actions against moslems suggest he doesn't 'stand with them' in the manner described in your exerpt. I have to view his actions to determine if its so and I don't see it. Not that he couldn't be but I don't see much if any evidence he feels the same. If he does, he should be out. A President represents ALL the people. End of story.

Can you guys finally end your 'love in' with Cain. The man is woefully and I'd say embarassingly unprepared to be President. Great personal story. Seems a man of high principles. I'm not even counting the sexual harrassment issues. Not excusing it but I've worked in corporate america in management and rarely met any man in a managerial position who hasn't made a pass at someone on the job. Myself included. I banged one of my own employees once (Her idea!!! Really..crazy story for another post...maybe the next post).

Anyway, it seemed obvious to me the first time I saw him in a debate that he was not Presidential material. As I have said, Commerce head? Sure. No way should he get closer to the white house. He as well as Palin seemed so obvously not prepared that I have to question Republicans. HH buddy, I love ya but c'mon! Repubicans can see through Obama but not Palin and Cain. If ever there were conservative tinted glasses.

This is just embarassing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/14/herman-cain-libya-question_n_1093425.html

The best candidates are obviously Huntsman, Johnson and Paul is debatable to some but at least the first two. Huntsman was ruled for having served as China amabassador under Obama. WTF? The position is not an endorsement of Obama's ideology. Its a vital and extremely important ambassadorship and he was asked to serve his country and he did. It shouldn't matter the party.

The question remains. Is Romney an improvement?

Assuming this is true. Is Romney going to be better? The same? Or worse? I think the latter. We really do need 3rd party politics in this country.

Flash: About the only thing I use CBS for is sports. If it was a newspaper, I'd put it on a spool in the bathroom. Last night's "debate" was a rare exception.

 

Re Coulter: the left has historically emphasized the use of personal attacks, mud-slinging, and anarchism to justify advancement of it's dogma. The Coulter/Cain episodes are just examples. The OWS movement is another. If I were dictator, all of those protesters who felt the need to cover their faces with masks would be the first ones with targets on their chests. (I mean it; fuck em).

 

Steveo...Obama missed a Golden Opportunity to help overturn/change Iran a couple of years ago. Remember the "Green movement"? Where was Obama then? Having some fucking "beer summit" in the White House backyard? Almost every place in the ME that Obama has inserted his fucking nose has resulted in detriment of Western culture or dubious advancement of ME peace. Suggesting that Israel move back to the 1967 borders; encouraging the ousting of Mubarak so that the more radical Islamists can take over; supporting the Libyan rebels with the likely same result; calling out Assad in Syria with another likely anti-U.S. result. You can't be serious that Obama would support/take any...even "covert"...action against a Muslim country hostile to the U.S. The fucker's middle name is "Hussein", for God's sake !!! Where, now, is "The One" who was gonna sweet talk all of our adversaries in the ME and around the world...you know, the bullshit campaign talk that got him the Nobel Peace Prize?

 

Your guy is a TOTAL fucking loser !!!

 

HH

HH, glad to hear from you. My guy is okay. He's promoting self determination. I don't like islamist fundamentalist as much as the next guy but people do have a right to self determination. They may make a choice we don't like but they will suffer from exclusion from the world community. You have to give people time to get it right.

Supporters of BOTH parties have used personal attacks. OWS is a glorious grassroots movement. Reminds me of another movement. hehe.

Romney has no idea HH. The Republican party refuses to support the best candidate. They only support the candidate that can win. You and I know that often times doesn't equate to the same. Obama seemed the best candidate to Dems at the time in '08 which I give them credit for. Hillary would have whupped McCain's ass in a general election. Dems voted with the guy that they deemed the best. Huntsman, Johnson and Paul are miles better the field. Surprisingly they are the ones the Republican powers that be don't want. Says it all really, which is why I still can't support the party.

Ron Paul Gets 90 Seconds To Speak In CBS Debate

 

 

Congressman Ron Paul was a victim of what later transpired to be a deliberate policy on behalf of CBS News to restrict the air time of certain candidates during last night’s Republican debate, after he was afforded just 90 seconds of speaking time during the course of the event in South Carolina last night.

 

I can understand the political parties wanting to limit the exposure of Ron Paul but why the mass media? My conspiracy theory inclinations say they are all part of the cabal of 'they'.

Were I head of one of the major news organizations I would find Paul fascinating and a person who would create debate, a boon for the media. You want people talking. I simply can't understand.

This statement by Romney scared the hell out of me. It sounds like campaign rhetoric but he seems like he's hungry to have another war. As far as Iran with nukes, the country that has the most to worry about is Saudi Arabia. Iran knows if it even hints at using it or giving it to someone that will use it against them, Tehran will be a parking lot.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-iran-obtain-nuclear-weapon-obama-elected-023551376.html

"If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear weapon," Mitt Romney declared in a foreign policy debate in South Carolina sponsored by CBS News and National Journal. "If you elect me as president, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon."

I am very confident that the administration is using any and all covert means. I think even Gingrich knows this. Fact is we don't know what cover things the admin is doing but if Obama's record on things of that nature is any evidence, everything within our power is being done covertly.

Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich said the positions advocated by Cain and Romney were "superior" to the Obama administration, which he contended had "skipped all the ways to be smart" about Iran, including investment in more covert operations to block and "disrupt" their efforts to obtain a nuclear weapon.

And now just for Cav ...

 

11 shocking things you now realize to be true (but you never would have believed just three years ago)

 

 

My link

12. The two parties conspire to keep out any 3rd party.

They also routinely call America a two party system when the founders never intended to have political parties. They had already seen how the Parliament in England was ruined that way. We morphed into it but we were never intended to have them. However, its always being said by them that we are a two party country as if its by design. The organization that determines who can enter a debate was founded by the two parties. Which is why you don't see 3rd party represented. When both parties are asked why there isn't a 3rd voice, they say its not up to them, its up to the organization that they created.

13. Being a Congressperson was never intended to be a career.

The founders saw public service as a duty you did in order to pay back the country in some small way. After you were done your term you went back to your 'day job'. However today its different. So let me understand this. No one asked them to serve, they volunteered to run for Congress, then they say they aren't paid enough for something they asked to do. They then vote themselves pay rises and health benefits. Everyone else has to work 30 years for full pension but they can do it less than half that time.

14, Manchester United and Tottenham suck.

We've always known this. Nothing surprising there. The world has come to realize what all Arsenal fans already knew.

15. Dick Cheney is even more evil than we imagined him to be.

Interesting how he and his boss avoided military combat but were the two most ardent supporters of going to war.

 

 

Carney did say that "Our relationship with Israel is based on

...Florida's electoral votes and fundamentalist Christian's desire to see biblical prophecy fulfilled.

Every British PM polls higher than our President against other Americans. Blair supported the same war as Bush but polled higher. Thats a head scratcher. Actually I know why. Its the accent.

Fact is NO ONE in Washington is popular. If Congress had high poll numbers Obama's poll numbers would have meaning. However, the Republican congress has lower poll numbers.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-04/politics/30100840_1_approval-rating-respondents-poll

Americans' opinion of Congress has sunk to a historic low, according to a new CNN poll. Only 14% of the poll's respondents said they approve of the way Congress is handling its job.

It is also only the third time since CNN started the poll in 1974 that Congress' approval rating has sunk below 20%.