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I find it odd you would be so unkind as to categorize my comments as" weasel words." We all have our friends and sources. some of which may be surprising. No problem have a terrific day good fellow

My understanding is that those personal security forces closest to him are not "open to negotiation" due to their own substantial "benefits".

Many of us have felt that Thaksin would instigate and fund continued guerilla efforts at destabilization. He will not back down.

Of course :grinyes:

The Fed. BIS and a variety of US JUNTA worker bee banks are manipulating gold price to keep the petro dollar alive The are slowy losing the battle

Hms seems tobe a developing repeat theme- I was living full time here and as I remember in 91-92 the civilian populace rose up against the coup junta with many protests which in turn led to conflict and then the killings. I faintly remember a general who had appointed himself prime minister as well albeit briefly-As STONE SOUP SAID the police have been useless causing the Army to stepup I m shocked Yinglak is still n LOS-She got caught offguard... The army has to keep order or else it all goes to shit Funky scene

Very very good

Same same good luck going against the Army

Agreed- I think the essential issue is that Farang countries have a naïve view that the electoral process here is legit. I have no idea why they would believe this as its not really legit anywhere IE BUsh Fla etc

Its all good.

I cannot remember how long the curfew lasted the last time... I am surprised the taxis are not running FROM the airport- I suspect that will change soon-Coup or not the show must go on- Its a tradition Back JUne 3rd late at night betting its clear by then but TIT--- :dunno:

Great photos

This is a big step. Man these guys had it ALL mapped out. WELL DONE!! This was all in place before "the talks"

Hm hottie on the jeep She sure looks relaxed- Sure glad his index finger is safely placed... I love these post coup group shots. I remember the one in 06 I was near Emporium at about 4 oclock and gotta call that the military was seizing power and "maybe you should head home-Sure enough a few hours later TSHTF

Hmmm... Lets see if we can figure whats next... This was easy to see coming its the nex step that is tricky. Whadya think Flash?

Its just so predictable.

"One of my Thai colleagues just mentioned that this has turned into a full coup because the parties could not agree." That guy should be a Rhodes Scholar- This was all be design to begin with-The Army assumed this would happen creating the necessary face. Ying is already out of the country and Suthep am sure in the lock up- :hubbahubba:

Well as we all know it was a coup to begin with. The Army just waited until everyone proved they were not going to play nicely together during"the talks" TIT when yes means no/no means yes and on and on.Klassik :grinyes:

Lets see... the military ok took over yesterday and all of a sudden large weapons stashes are being found .Hmmm

I landed in BKK coming from the states with less than 6 months on my passport ... I had a casual conversation at Immi / promised to get over to the embassy ASAP and he let it pass.

Probably which is very sad because his work is just awful.

Dam fine commentary Steve- We have become a society of SHEEP.

L-DR? No idea what that meant and now I do as took the time to look it up : I understand... but I think it is an essential problem of modern society if individuals are not willing to inform themselves regarding what" might" be actually be happening rather a reading the short predigested MSM version of reality.Up to you...

Odessa False Flag - Pathetic U.S. Media CoveragePolitics / Ukraine Civil War May 09, 2014 - 05:24 PM GMT By: Mike_Whitney “According to the evidence that I’ve seen …Odessa was a giant false flag operation. It… was one of those staged massacres that the pro-Western forces from Bosnia to Kosovo, now Ukraine, excel at staging, intended to draw Russia to overreact and commit military forces … I believe that the fact that they are willing to stage such a horrendous atrocity shows the depth of their desperation at this point.â€â€“ Nebojsa Malic, political analyst, Russia Today “Not under foreign skies Nor under foreign wings protected - I shared all this with my own people There, where misfortune had abandoned us.â€â€“ “Requiem†– Anna Akhmatova Photos of the victims of the Odessa fire which have been circulating on the Internet have cast doubt on the official version of events. It’s now clear that many of the anti-junta activists who occupied the Trade Unions House were neither burned to death nor died of smoke inhalation, but were savagely shot at point-blank range by agents and thugs who had infiltrated the building to kill as many of the occupants as possible, burn the corpses, and then slip away without notice. Some of the victims–like a young woman who was eight months pregnant –were strangled with an electrical chord and left slumped backwards over her desk in a room that shows no sign of fire or smoke damage. In another case, a woman was stripped naked from the waste down, raped, killed, and set ablaze. In still other cases, victims with bullet-holes through their skulls, had flammable fluid dumped on their heads and were incinerated, leaving a charred head atop a corpse whose clothes were untouched by fire. The sloppily-executed killing-spree proves that the fire was not the result of a spontaneous clash between pro and anti-Kiev demonstrators, but a carefully planned black-op that likely involved foreign Intel agencies working hand-in-hand with the fascist junta government in Kiev. Did we mention that the CIA has taken up residence in the Ukrainian capital? Here’s the scoop from the AFP: “Dozens of specialists from the US Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation are advising the Ukrainian government … helping Kiev end the rebellion in the east of Ukraine and set up a functioning security structure…†(CIA, FBI agents ‘advising Ukraine government: report, AFP) We all know about the CIA’s energetic efforts to create a “functioning security structure†in nations around the world. The CIA’s presence in Ukraine suggests that the US was either actively involved in the Odessa incident or knows who was. Either way, there should be an independent investigation before the case is referred to the ICC for prosecution. The rampage in Odessa is part a broader strategy to provoke Moscow into a military confrontation. US war planners want to draw Putin into a conflict to justify NATO expansion, block further EU-Russian economic integration, and facilitate the “pivot to Asia.†The victims in this tragedy were sacrificed to advance Washington’s imperial ambitions and to establish US global hegemony. Obama has repeatedly reiterated his unwavering support for the crackdown on dissidents in the east. In a Rose Garden press conference just days ago, the president applauded the military attack on civilians saying, “The Ukrainian government has shown remarkable restraint throughout this whole process.†Indeed, the Odessa graveyards are now full of people who can attest to the great restraint of the junta government that Obama so admires. The coverage of the Odessa massacre by the western media is as bad as any in recent memory. The giant news conglomerates no longer make any attempt to pretend they’re anything other propaganda organs for the State. Even by that low standard, the coverage has been abysmal. Here’s a typical summary from an article on the liberal website, Huffington Post. “Police said the deadly fire broke out in a trade union building, but did not give details on how it started. Earlier, police said at least three people had died in a clash between the two sides in the city of 1 million. According to Ukrainian news reports, the pro-Kiev demonstrators broke up an encampment of Moscow supporters outside the trade union building. The latter took refuge in the building, which then caught fire. Odessa police spokesman Volodymyr Shasbliyenko told AP the fire apparently was caused by Molotov cocktails. He had no further details or identities of the victims.†(Odessa Building Fire Kills Dozens, AP) The author deliberately misleads his readers about what really took place. The fire did not “break out†in a trade union building. It was started. There’s no debate about this. There’s video footage of the whole incident and tons of eyewitness reports. Right sector goons started the fire by throwing Molotov cocktails through the windows. It’s all on tape. Second, the “pro-Kiev demonstrators†(did not) “break up an encampment of Moscow supporters outside the trade union building…which then caught fire.†This is nonsense. The fascist extremists burned down the tent city, chased the activists into the building, barricaded the exits, and then set the building on fire with the obvious intention of killing the people inside. Again, there is no debate about this. It’s all on video. The US media is involved in a massive cover up, mainly because a investigation would undoubtedly point to US involvement. This is why none of the major news organizations are covering an incident which would normally be headline news. Odessa is unique blend of Waco and Columbine, a combo that editors typically use to boost sagging ratings by exploiting public empathy and outrage. Only this time, the media has minimized its coverage and refused to report on a story that would probably lead straight to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. While the New York Times has been widely criticized for publishing fake photos of Russian soldiers in Ukraine, the Wall Street Journal wins the trophy for absolute worst coverage. In a piece titled “Deadly Ukraine Fire Likely Sparked by Rebels, Government Saysâ€, the WSJ pushes the improbable theory that the anti-coup activists inside the building actually burned the building down themselves, a pathetic attempt to blame the victims of a ruthless government crackdown. Here’s an excerpt from the article: “The fire began from the roof. There were extremists there, we found casings and firearms,†Mr. Chebotar said. “But something unexpected happened; their Molotov cocktails fell, and ignited the higher floors of the building.†(Deadly Ukraine Fire Likely Sparked by Rebels, Wall Street Journal) Utterly ridiculous. Are the editors of the WSJ aware of the fact that footage of the Neo Nazis throwing Molotov cocktails at the building are all over the Internet? The article, of course, fails to explain how many of the people inside the building were either shot or strangled to death. Nor does the author speculate on why the police stood by while people hurled themselves from windows to escape the fire or were savagely beaten by right wing extremists on the pavement in front of the building. Instead, the WSJ tries to provide a plausible excuse for the one part of the story it chooses to focus on as if “who started the fire†can be separated from other important details. The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that the 40 victims of the incident were killed in a homicidal rampage that was perpetrated by Obama’s new friends in Kiev. No amount of whitewash is going to hide that one glaring fact. Here’s how Serbian historian and political analyst, Nebosja Malic, summed it up: “According to all the evidence that I have seen, the entire thing in Odessa was a giant false flag operation. It was a provocation, it was one of those stage massacres that the pro-Western forces from Bosnia to Kosovo, now Ukraine excel at staging, intended to draw Russia to overreact… “We have proof that the West is instigating this. And just the other day, Catherine Ashton, the EU’s commissioner for foreign policy, pretty much gave a green light to the extremists from Kiev. She pretty much said they had a right to establish law and order within the borders of the country. I would say that the EU has blood on its hands, especially Catherine Ashton. It’s the same thing they did in Yugoslavia in the 90s, when they started encouraging radicals, extremists, secessionists.†(Interview with Nebosja Malic, RT) It’s true that Washington supports Neo-Nazi extremists who burned down the Odessa Trade Unions House. If that wasn’t the case, then Obama would have spoken out forcefully against the action, which he has not. That implies that things are going according to plan. Malic is also correct when he says the fire was a “giant false flag operation†which refers to a covert military operation where agents disguise themselves as members of their adversary’s group to initiate a provocation that will then be blamed on the other side. In this case, pro-regime fascists (and probably agents from the Security Services) disguised themselves as Kiev regime opponents, in order to throw bricks and stones at the police and Right Sector goons. This was the flashpoint that started the melee that ended in a massacre. Videos on Russia Today show the agents in red arm bands mingled with the pro-Russia activists, initiated a confrontation with the cops, and then quickly switched sides when the fighting broke out. This is classic false flag operation. The police were obviously in on the scam, as they immediately opened their ranks to let the imposters slip by when the street-scrum began. These same imposters were later filmed shooting handguns and automatic weapons in the direction of the building just minutes after they had switched sides. (Take a look at this video from 3:30 minutes to the 6 minute-point and decide for yourself whether this was a false flag operation or not.) Bottom line: There was nothing spontaneous about the clash that led to the catastrophic fire that killed 40 people in the Trade Unions House. It was a carefully planned and executed operation designed to shock Moscow into sending troops to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine. If the CIA is working in Kiev –as it is–there is no doubt that they either knew or actively assisted the operation. In related news: Moscow has announced it will “deploy additional forces in Crimea as part of beefing up the Black Sea fleet…before year’s endâ€. According to RT: “The fleet will receive new submarines and surface ships of new generation this year.†The Kremlin is responding to the buildup of NATO forces in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea where additional aircraft, warships and ground troops have been deployed in case war breaks out. Also, according to RT: “NATO’s three-week ‘Spring Storm’ drills, involving a record-breaking number of 6,000 troops, have begun in Estonia….(bringing) together a record number of allied troops.†(Also) around 150 personnel of the US airborne division arrived in a military transport aircraft to Amari airbase (while) the UK and France deployed eight fighter jets to Lithuania and Poland to strengthen NATO air defense over the Baltic regions.†(NATO’s record 6,000-strong drills kick off in Estonia amid Ukraine tensions, RT) So while the death toll mounts, the slide to war continues to gain momentum. Odessa was supposed to be the tipping point, the “catalyzing event†that would draw Putin into the fighting. But it hasn’t worked out that way. Putin has stayed on the sidelines and refused to take the bait. That means there’ll be more provocations to come; more false flags, more bloodshed, more stage-managed terror disguised as civil unrest. Eventually, people will see who’s behind all the trouble. But how many will have died by then? Note: Here’s a 12 minute video on Obama’s fascist friends in Ukraine. Listen to the last minute of the video to hear neocon Victoria Nuland praise Ukraine’s development of “democratic skills and institutions†with the appropriate backdrop of balaclava-clad Nazis and brightly colored swastikas. By Mike UGLY

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