Guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 I think that Vietnamese girls are among the most beautiful in the world. What is the sanuk scene like in Vietnam. also,Why are so many vietnamese girls working in Cambodia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 You've basically answered your own question. Why do so many vietnamese girls work in Cambodia? Think about it and away you go. Sanuk in Vietnam is a pain in the butt. It's expensive and difficult. Try getting the girl into your hotel and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Was there for about 10 days 2 weeks ago. After arriving from BKK, and my first walk down the street the hassle from Cyclo drivers (bycicle with a passenger seat in front) including threats (I shouldn't have talked to them at all), plus the ammount of beggars. Also when you see the sheer number of motorbikes on the road you can't imagine crossing. Well after about an hour I just wanted to go straight back to Bangkok. Next day though I changed to a cheaper hotel at Liberty3Hotel $14/night, you can get $4/night rooms with on suite bathrooms above some cafes if you look but no aircon. The charms of the city reveals itself 2nd day. Sanuk is more difficult though, I followed the beaten track and went to Apocolyps Now, prices quotes were between $20 and $50 but I didn't take to anyone there, they seemed to businness like. Met one girl from there though in Violet Bar (good 2am~4am+) after AN closes. Got the idea she wasn't after cash and headed of with her on her bike back to my hotel. Hotel said I'd have to take another room out at $8 for guest, declined that and went to another hotel for about $10 (sense?), there are plenty of those kind of hotels around. in the morning she started to go on about shopping and how she wanted to buy some new trainers ..... could I help her. I gave her $25 (300,000dong) and all she did was moan that that would only get her a phone card. Anyway she hung out (stalked me) at my hotel bar (allez Boo) for the next couple of nights wanting to spend another night together but I sidestepped it. Tried one massage place beside AN called Sunshine, paid 500,000dong ($33) but made the mistake of insisting on a massage so nodded off as you do after a load of beer at 2am. Was woken up and finished the business, back downstairs and met two lads I'd met earlier, there ladies were hanging around but mine scarpered without even looking for a tip. that made sense when I realised another 500,000dong was gone from my pocket, my fault really. Another two sanuk instances occurred but Sanuk aside the women are more beautiful than Thai unbelievably but to see the stunners you have to look into some of the Viet Bars and clubs. Also HCM is worth a visit anyway, let a Cyclo drive you around a few sights for a couple of hours ($1/$2 per hour) and just enjoy the traffic, you wont see anything like it elsewhere. One pleasant thing was the scarcity of other fanangs for much of my cycle around the city, plenty of curious looks from the locals. Also a half day trip up to the Cu Chi tunnels is very interesting and even a day trip down to the Mekong Delta is good. Personally I'd like to go back to Saigon and stay clear of the Expat hangouts and just try my luck in some of the Vietnamese hangout places. The locals can be quite charming. One of the highlights of my trip was after leaving Violet bar one night the bar girls (but not BGs) were going to show me some Karioke bar that opened after 6am, well off we went, me driving the motorbike with the 3 girls screaming and giggling on the same bike with me. I'll never forget it, if you see the Saigon roads & traffic you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 cool report! It seems like the scene is different, as it should be, than Thailand. Another thing is that my sanuk experiences are usually different as I'm from asian heritage. I just get a different reaction from most girls.....usually surprise and confusion initially, then curiousity.....In any case, i really want to check out HCM city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 All the above were also my experiences, exactly. Lot of hassles, lot of ripoffs/mugging, lot of restrictions, and some decent BGs. But, the non-BGs are AWESOME looking. Always be lookng over your shoulder, and note that the cyclo drivers often are in on the ripoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibblies Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 A former well-travelled colleague told me about a city in Vietnam that historically "bred" good-looking women, for concubines or whatever. I can't remember which one it was - something beginning with P.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhumvit Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Bibblies, I think the Viets regard the girls from Hue as being the best looking in the country for some reason. Can't think why as they didn't appear anything special compared to anywhere else. Some of the best looking girls I saw were in Vung Tau, and yes you've guessed it they were on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Sukhumvit: ............Some of the best looking girls I saw were in Vung Tau, and yes you've guessed it they were on the game. I was trying to remember the name of the place, Vung Tau, that's it. I wasn't hrere myself my I had the place highly recommended to me while in Saigon. Apperently it's to Saigon as Pattaya is to BKK. It's a big get away place for the HCM people. You dan get there in about 2hrs I think from Saigon by Hydrofoil. I was told contradicting stories of how the sanuk there was unbelievable but also heard that a lot of expat oil workers have driven the prices up. It would be interesting to hear a report about the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhumvit Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Jack Hack Vung Tau is an easy trip from Saigon. $10 US on the hydrofoil down river to the sea, (on an historical aside, it was apparently off Vung Tau that the US fleet was steaming whilst they evacuated the US Embassy, and if you've seen the newsreels of the choppers being pushed over the sides of the carriers that must have been somewhere off Vung Tau. On a further historical note the Australian infantry apparently had a base close to town during the VN conflict, according to "A View From A Low Bough" a book by an Aussie vet which is worth looking out for.) It's a strange little town. Nothing like Pattaya or even Bangers. There's more in your face action in Saigon itself even as there's nothing like Apocalypse Now or the other lesser known bars in Hoville. There's a large Russian Petrochemical plant on the outskirts of town heading north towards Ho Cham. At one time the place was apparently very popular with Soviets. When I was there, in 99, there were still a couple of sweating, chubby middle-aged Russian women around. They took up a lot of space in the bank where I was trying to change some traveller's cheques. Accomodation is not that great. I stayed with a mate in a hotel a taxi drive from the main seafront, around the headland and along the beach. The beach could have been nice but they let it go tatty without cleaning up the detritus people dropped and that the sea washed up. The hotel was okay but nothing to write home about. We did find a nicer hotel in its own grounds even further out of town along the beach. They had their own beach front which they swept clean and the staff were very helpful. The town's got no discernible night life zone. There are a couple of bars on the seafront but with very low key action and they tend to close early. Had a laugh in one of them with a mini-skirted bargirl singing Unchained Melody to me whilst she straddled my knee. There are a couple of small discos. One, the blue something, was just inland from the front. Walked in with a buddy and we were the only customers. We were only out for a drink and turned on our heel as it was like a graveyard. At that moment about half a dozen Viet chicks in gowns appeared through a door and surrounded us. One of them spoke very good English and said that she was a student from Hanoi. I think the other girls were shipped in from elsewhere too. Not far from that place was a bar/brothel with some very good looking women. I think it was called Phuong something, (I think that means Phoenix but I've forgotten most of the Viet I picked up now.) The deal was that you could have a drink in the joint whilst a couple of girls joined you for a beer. If you liked them and they were game then it was negotiation time. I think it was $25 US for a st which is more than LOS. If you've got language skills you'd possibly get it for more reasonable prices. There's lots of fear of the cops and they take you off to a nearby st hotel on separate mopeds. No charge for the st hotel so I suppose it wasn't that bad. The chick was a frisky little thing, which was nice. I'd go back there, but don't expect go-gos or acres of bars like Pattaya. It's low key and you have to hunt around a bit but worth it. You'd only really want to spend at most a weekend there. A bit further up the coast are a couple of cleaner beaches at Ho Coc and Ho Cham. There's nothing to do except sunbathe and swim. No bars, nada. Accomodation very basic indeed but again if you wanted a break from Saigon then not a bad choice. Talking to a couple of the vendor women in Vung Tau they said that they took their annual holiday up there. It's only a couple of hours away by road at the most. There's a local bus service which is buttons and drops you off by an intersection and from there you have to go on the back of an old Minsk motorcycle taxi. The potholed unmade road surfaces and wandering waterbuffalo make for quite an exhilirating ride. [ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: Sukhumvit ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booya Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 HCMC is certainly worth a look, especially as bkk becomes more constrained. It is a challenge in many ways to accomplish what we seem to take for granted back in LOS, that being simply moving your gal from the bar to the bedrm.,without complicating interference. This was alluded to earlier in this thread. But it is most certainly worth the effort. The girls there are generally less aggressive and mercenary (except perhaps at Aplocolyp), and are by and large smaller in stature and in many instances, even more beautiful than the fine selection in LOS. Again, that is a subjective opinion (but what isn't). In my mind, as the girls compare from the Phillipines to Thailand, so goes the beauties of Viet when compared to Thailand. As to closing the deal, a number of obstacles may present themselves. First, as mentioned earlier, one's own hotel can present the first problem. Many hotels (the Rex included) post sentrys on each floor during the night, blocking a swift jaunt to the room. And should you manage to pull it off, unnoticed, you may still have the maids to contend with, who have been known, in the early hours, to phone the front desk if they catch sight of an unregistered guest. You can always go the shorttime route, but with some girls working in unison with these hotels (as some do with cyclo drivers), be careful. I have heard of exit fees being sprung after the deed is done, and padlocked gates keeping you in until the final bill is settled. (One such story had the girl jacking up the price at the end, and then detaining her escort who refused to pay, until outside reenforcement showed up). So again, be careful. And then all could be going exceptionally well, without any extracurricular nonsense, and your ST hotel phone rings warning you the police are on their way. They seem to have some rule against unmarried couples being found in hotel rooms. You do not want to stick around and try to sort that out, and having already paid for the room, you could find yourself ass out without the chance to finish what you had started. All of that is not to say that it is not still worth it... if you revel in new experiences, it clearly is a road to travel. One angle which has worked in the past is to arrange a rendevous with your selection the night before for an afternoon meeting at your hotel, e.g. for a tennis match on the rooftop courts, or a drink at the bar, or a session at the spa or gym, and simply detour. Or, you could avoid all the trickery, and just rent a flat. Finally, to offer a bit more on hitting some local, less touristed joints, it may prove to be hit and miss. While I didn't explore it in HCMC, I did encounter a few karaoke clubs with an anti-foreigner bias in Hanoi. What looked very inviting from the curbside, was blocked at the entryway for non-Vietnamese. Guess you just need to know where you are going from the getgo, but do go, by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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