sanuk in japan?

[Guest]

I am an American that wants to check out Japan. Where is the best place to go for sanuk? The highest concentration of bars and discoes where you can hook up with ordinary japanese women for a night? I want to get a motel in the center of the action so i have to ride a cab as little as possible. And hopefully someone may know some links to sights so I could look into it further.

 

 

[Guest lazyphil]

Given up on Khao San then, good luck with your Japan trip, should be facinating

[Guest]

>I am an American that wants to check out Japan.

 

 

 

Don't try Okinawa. It is supposed to be nice but

 

they are kind of tired of all those unruly Marines.

 

 

 

>Where is the best place to go for sanuk?

 

 

 

Maybe it is not the best, but you hardly can pass by Tokyo. As an experience and overall entertainment it is a mandatory destination in Japan.

 

 

 

On the other, if your idea of "sanuk" is getting laid with non-professional ladies, it is a bit difficult place, since there are plenty of handsome young Western men around for the Japanese who want to get rooted by a whiteface. In the well-known haunts for foreigners there are also plenty of young guys of indeterminate African origin, so there is a plentiful supply as well for the girls who happen to prefer darker sausage.

 

 

 

You will have less competition and more novelty value in the lesser towns or even in the countryside, but there the language barrier is even more of an obstacle. I have no idea how well you can get around without being able to speak the local language when even all the road signs are unintelligible. The cost level is probably going to be lower, too, once you get there.

 

 

 

The foreigner-friendliness and toughness of competition in the

 

towns and the various entertainment areas are quite directly

 

proportional. Tokyo, Yokohama and Osaka are used to foreigners (all of them have Hard Rock Cafes ). In Tokyo, Roppongi is the entertainment district most oriented towards foreigners. Shibuya is more oriented towards young people, but there are some locations where Western dick is well known to be available. Kabukicho in Shinjuku is the classical naughty nightlife area. Mostly oriented towards Japanese, but they are cosmopolitan. You can see references to the professional activities available there if you search the board. Ginza has some interesting discos. They are a really exoctic experience. My younger and much more handsome colleague who is fortunate enough to be still on assignment in Japan picked up his local girlfriend in one of them. It is not the cheapest area, though. Ikebukuro has also a nightlife, as well as Ueno.

 

 

 

One of my much younger colleagues had a really great time while in Tokyo, but he had hooked up already in advance with locals in Internet chatrooms. You will definitely have the best time, if you have a local guide. However, he may not be quite the typical example, since he is a really nice outgoing guy, and his sister was "Miss <certain ex-East Block country>" and the looks run in the family. Chatrooms in advance are probably a good idea, if you can handle them.

 

 

 

Anyway, an American with their typical obnoxious outgoing

 

attitude and infinite selfconfidence is probably going

 

to do pretty well. After being three weeks in Tokyo

 

I was quite annoyed one evening when this American insisted

 

on pushing himself into my table when the Roppongi Starbuck's was half-empty. I got even more annoyed when he started quizzing me about whether I already had a local girlfriend. He apparently had bedded one within a week of his arrival.

 

 

 

I turned out to be a much harder case. It took four months

 

before someone grabbed me. I turned out that the girls in office had had a betting pool, and everybody else but my best friend had been far too optimistic.

 

 

 

If you can get laid 'honestly' back home, you can get laid also in Japan, but it is not likely to be much easier. On the other hand, it is probably not going to be as complicated, either. There are plenty of "love" (short time) hotels, and many locals clearly get together just for a good messy one-night stand without any further commitments.

 

 

 

Note that condoms are a good idea also in Japan. Nasty STDs are less common than in many other countries. (The Japanese have or at least had this quaint idea that only foreigners can have HIV. Not true any more.) In any case, the girls who like to go with foreigners are also more likely to have hit the jackpot... Another aspect is that contraceptive pills are still an extreme rarity. They were approved for use in Japan merely a few years ago after more than twenty years of study; Viagra got approved in half a year... So if you don't take care of it, the girl probably won't, either.

 

 

 

>The highest concentration of bars and discoes where you >can hook up with ordinary japanese women for a night?

 

 

 

So where to go? Both times I got 'lucky' was in Roppongi, in a place called Motown. The crowd there is quite mixed, so it is not only for the young people. However, be careful, you might end up with a pro and a ladyboy to boot... It has a sister bar "Motown II" which seems to serve as an overflow on the weekends. Nowadays there may be other hot spots, since it is almost a year since my last days in Tokyo.

 

 

 

My two native 'catches' were rather different. One was a department store clerk in her mid-twenties. Not stunning but absolutely cute and she gave incredible head. She was also pretty competent in English, being a great Beatles fan. She had even made a pilgrimage on her own to Liverpool! The second one was a middle-aged lady with almost no English. A very unhappy person after being abandoned by the American whose 'mia noi' she had been for years. She claimed that the guy had been some kind of specialist on Japan working for the CIA; clearly he had had very good Japanese for her to still have so little English after all those years. I initially thought that she was a pro, but it turned out that she insisted paying for the taxi and even for the very expensive hotel - sharing was out of the question... A really weird experience.

 

 

 

If you are young and attractive, the various Gas Panics in Roppongi and Shibuya as well as Yokohama are supposed to be good. Especially the Shibuya one should be kind to young attractive guys. Velfarre disco is also an experience, but it is on only twice a month on Saturdays. Then everybody who is young and beautiful goes. I saw the queue a couple of times - what babes. However, I have also heard that many people there are high on E and do not necessarily care for additional company.

 

 

 

Roppongi has also lots of foreigner-friendly commercial entertainment. Strip clubs with lapdancing, interesting variations on diddling clubs, massage parlours that provide HJ/BJ, not to mention various fetish clubs. It is quite pricey, though. Kabukicho in Shinjuku (and places elsewhere, I'm sure) provide even more interesting variations, but unfortunately the most interesting places are "Japanese only". Like the ones that have on the outside pictures of really nice looking girls and pictorial menus of very naughty services at a very reasonable rate. I think Eden Club would be the closest approximation in Thailand to those places...

 

 

 

>I want to get a motel in the center of the action so i have

 

>to ride a cab as little as possible.

 

>

 

ROTFL. You are highly unlikely to find inexpensive accommodation in the center of anything in the metropoles. Ibis Hotel is in the center of Roppongi, and the last time I checked, their special Internet rate was 14000 yen/night. Note that the ANA hotel a few hundred metres away starts at about 20000 yen/night. You can find cheaper accommodation, but that won't be very central. You had better learn some taxi Japanese, since the drivers won't necessarily know where you want to get. "Left, right, straight, stop" and knowning some close-by railway or subway station ("eki") is fairly adequate, though. However, the cost of the ride might nullify the savings you achieved in the accommodation. Do as the locals do and party all night long until the trains and subway start running again...

 

 

 

>And hopefully someone may know some links to sights

 

>so I could look into it further

 

 

 

Real sights?? Google.com should help, or buy a real travel guide.

 

 

 

Now is the best time to go as far as the weather is concerned. You might even catch the "hanami" parties.

 

 

 

Wagner

 

 

[sayjann]

soi8troller.

 

go to website-www.worldsexguide.org.

 

go to the discussion board and then asia,much info on japan.

 

also all info you need on just about country in the world.

[Guest]

wsvinja,

 

 

 

thank's for the really interesting information. Great overview. I wonder if you also could give some insight in the pricing especially for the Tokyo area. I mean: what do drinks, food, entrance fees to discos or dancings etc. cost.

 

 

 

Thank's

 

 

 

Cheers

[Guest]

Unfortunately my memory is not the best and things keep fading on me... The numbers may not be that reliable, sorry.

 

 

 

As far as I know. the prices in Tokyo can vary greatly: you can find places that are not outrageous, but you can always find a more expensive place. (The most expensive ones might not allow foreigners, though.)

 

 

 

Drinks:

 

Bottle of beer in a bar/nightclub - 800yen. If you go to an "izakaya" (kind of a local equivalent of a folksy pub), you can get jugs with an equivalent cost of 500-600yen. In a shop you would pay 300-400yen.

 

 

 

Cocktails maybe 1000yen.

 

 

 

Tall coffee of the day at Starbucks - a bit less than 500yen. In Ginza you can go to a coffeeshop and pay 1000yen for a tiny cup of coffee...

 

 

 

Food:

 

Local 'fast food' such as rice topped with beef served in a place with bar style seating and meal tickets bought from a vending machine - about 500yen. They have had price wars among the chains, so you have been able to get it quite a bit cheaper. I found it quite tasty and filling - good enough meal to keep you going all day, especially if you supplement it with beer in the night...

 

 

 

Lunches tend to be rather cheaper than dinner, but the menus are not as extensive. Depending on the place 1000-1200yen would be a typical lunch with main course, in some places some kind of starter and sweet dessert could be included.

 

 

 

Dinner probably will start at 1500 per course. If you go to an 'izakaya' to get 'pub food', the courses are cheaper but not as big, either.

 

 

 

Entrance fees:

 

I visited almost no discos. I seem to recall that a disco in Ginza was 5000yen, but that included three drink tickets. Bars/nightclubs are quite likely to have people dancing and there is no entrance fee. (E.g. Gas Panics are a like that.) Real discos are not that common, as far as I can tell, because there are supposed to be BIG.

 

 

 

A Japanese peculiarity is the "time system". You pay for the time and during the period the drinks are free for you. The rate depends on the place, being more expensive in the kinkier places. If you are a guy, who can really pour it in, this can be a great opportunity...

 

 

 

Wagner

 

 

[Guest]

Thank's a lot.

 

 

 

Cheers

[the_numbers]

I just got back from Japan two days ago. Drink wise Gas Panic in Roppongi has a 400 Yen all drinks happy hour. The staff is almost exclusively white, and it is bustling, with some Japanese women as well. I was put off by the whole thing and alone, and ended up leaving.

 

 

 

I went with friends to clubs, the trendy huge discos in Kabuki-cho on weekends are more like 3000 Yen or so, with a drink or two included. Club Code, which is really huge and has young clientele provides drinks at 500 Yen each after your admission. It is a one-of-a-kind experience.

 

 

 

Hotel Accomodations. Perfunctory business hotels, or even capsule hotels if you are going to stay out are a consideration. There are a glut of westerneres in Roppongi. You can get any manner of mischief in Kabuki-cho if you wander around looking lost. People will solicit you, how much you are charged will vary drastically based on how much you speak, and know what you want.

 

 

 

Service and atmosphere-wise the upstairs brothels in Kabuki-cho are bound to be pretty depressing. The interior of those places is like: paper thin walls that might as well be Chinese screens, and lots of Korean and Filipina women sold into it. The Japanese clubs are often in buildings and the people out front -- by the way they look at you --- you'll be clued in that your not welcome.

 

 

 

all the best.