paul101 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 If even the times has woken up to reality what excuse do others have? Along with this article is another on the front page about an undercover investigation using a pakistani reporter going into mosques in Yorkshire. He recorded a leading Imam praising the London bombers as going gods work, will the evil old devil be arrested? not any more likely than the ones urging slaughter last week being delt with. Interestingly the Imam in question condemed terrorism and the bombers in public but holds very different beliefs in private. I think many believe this is widespread in the Islamic community in the UK. http://www.timesonline.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evel_Penivel Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Excellent point. Many imams, in many countries, have said one thing in public, another thing when speaking to the faithful in Arabic. I remember an undercover investigation in Sweden several years ago. It wasn't about terrorism, but about female "circumsion" and arranged marriages of 12 and 13 year old girls to men in their 40s. An imam and the "rector" of an Islamic school (supported by public money) had agreed when speaking Arabic to a female undercover reporter to help arrange the genital mutilation and forced marriage of young girls, even though both were on public record as saying they were strongly opposed to such practices. Yasser Arafat used to do the same thing. In English, he would sound reasonable on Israel, but never used the same wording in arabic. To Muslims, the only "real language" is Arabic. The Qu'ran isn't considered the "real" holy book unless in Arabic. Versions in English and other languages aren't called the Qu'ran, but the Qu'ran in translation and can't be used in any ceremony requiring the Qu'ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krml Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Yeah the sad fact is that the British government figured that as long as they left them alone they wouldn't foul their own nest. Many conservatives in the media began referring to London as Londonistan because they allowed them to preach their hatred. Unfortunately it ended up biting them in the ass after the bombings in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe7e Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Yeah the sad fact is that the American government figured that as long as they left them alone they wouldn't foul their own nest. Many conservatives in the media began referring to New York as Jew York because they allowed them to preach their hatred. Unfortunately it ended up biting them in the ass after the 9-11 outrage. Discuss why America is the target for relegious nutters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Umm ... wasn't it the saintly Rev. Jesse Jackson who called NYC "Hymietown"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul101 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Evel_Penivel said: The Qu'ran isn't considered the "real" holy book unless in Arabic. Versions in English and other languages aren't called the Qu'ran, but the Qu'ran in translation and can't be used in any ceremony requiring the Qu'ran. You are right and what a pity this is, rather like insisting that people should only read the bible in ancient greek. It leads to muslims in most countries learning great chunks of the koran without knowing what it actually means. Perhaps some of the Imams prefer to keep them in the dark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texascity Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 >London as Londonistan< Just the Sun has Set Empire's children coming home to roost. & Now this, these uniformed hoologans might upset some of Empire's looted children more than a cartoon: "TODAY we expose a rogue squad of British soldiers who savagely attacked a defenceless bunch of Iraqi teenagers ?and with 42 brutal blows brought shame on our nation and its proud army." http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 All I know is that the pages of the Koran make GREAT toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texascity Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 the bible makes GRATE bum wipe :-o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Nah, the velvety texture of Bible pages make them good for nose-blowing. For arse-wiping, I use only the Koran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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