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Some Musings on Pattaya


preahko

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First, a few disclaimers: I'm nothing approaching an expert on Pattaya; far from it. In my four years in Thailand I've only gone there a handful of times. I don't particularly like the place but a visit every once in a while is okay. This past weekend I went down there for the first time in two years, and these are a few of my observations:

 

1. The difference in body price is very nice...basically, half of what is expected in Bangkok. In general, my experiences in terms of performance down there have been less than stellar, but I really lucked out this weekend and got amazing long-time service for 1,000 each night (two girls @ 1k each the first night, incredible value).

 

2. The sheer amount of nightlife establishments in Pattaya continues to be very overwhelming to me. Not that I don't mind the variety, but it's so hard sometimes to make a choice of a "profitable" venue to spend time in...once you've plunked your butt down you're out a beer (I'm talking volume consumed, not money spent, which is minimal), and so often I just end up sitting there for the duration of the beer with nobody wanting to talk to me. Recommendations of bars from forums, etc., are fairly useless, since a) one person's meat is another's poison, and B) frequent staff changes often render this month's recommendation useless next month.

 

The Pattaya variety is good, though, in that you could go out every night of the year and never go into the same bar. Living in Bangkok and going out often does get a bit old, especially once one has gone with a few girls from one's favorite bars who pitch drama fits (possessiveness, guilt trips, etc.) which means one has to cross that bar off one's list for months at a time. After a while, you end up with many bars off the list, and it sometimes seems like there's nowhere fresh to go!

 

3. I intensely dislike the very obvious presence of thai men in the Pattaya sex industry. Yeah, in Nana you have the thugs who hang around outside the bars and leech off the girls, and you know lots of the girls have thai boyfriends, but at least it's a little more behind the scenes here.

 

It's SO blatant in Pattaya...hell, half the hawkers outside the gogos are thai males! and not the effeminate inoffensive ones, the drunken muay thai brutes who would just as soon split a farang head open as get you into their [girlfriend's] bar...and in many bars, they're sitting right in there behind--or at--the fucking bar!

 

I know they're involved with all of this (primarily in leech mode), I just prefer the illusion where it's not so much in your face.

 

4. I went in a few gogos that were kind of fun...the ones whose names I remember are The Sea (fun, interactive girls), Windmill (again, girls pretty interactive and they do a regular thing where they lay a towel down on the stage and one goes down on another on it), and Club Boesche (sp?), which is worth the price of admission solely for the one amazingly sexy, heavily tattooed dancer (who can actually dance). I brought my girl for the night from a bar beer in there and she was as transfixed by her as I was...

 

Anyway, a nice weekend getaway but I probably won't be back for at least another 6 months/year...

 

preahko

 

 

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This year I was probably 150 nights on Walking Street and now I am trying to get a picture of the Thai Males that wanna fuck me up! Could it be that you have been there on a special night like Loy Krathong or so? Because I really don't see them or maybe not care about them! The most guys outside the gogo bars are "bouncers" "Hello Boys" and when it comes to The Sea they are boyfriends of the waitresses!

 

I have never been offended by a thai guy, I usually get along with them very well, but my shoulders are trice as strong as theirs ;) I think your observation is really good but in that particular point I have to take another look tonight and try to find these guys since I really never cared about any male bloke outside of a bar!

 

You are right The Sea is pretty good, i have 5 BG friends there who are funny as hell, my gym mate (girl) works there occasionally, basically every night when I am there, she has the hottest body of a thai woman i have ever seen! When she was there the other night when you have been there you know who I am talking about!

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This year I was probably 150 nights on Walking Street and now I am trying to get a picture of the Thai Males that wanna fuck me up! Could it be that you have been there on a special night like Loy Krathong or so? Because I really don't see them or maybe not care about them! The most guys outside the gogo bars are "bouncers" "Hello Boys" and when it comes to The Sea they are boyfriends of the waitresses!

 

I have never been offended by a thai guy, I usually get along with them very well, but my shoulders are trice as strong as theirs ;) I think your observation is really good but in that particular point I have to take another look tonight and try to find these guys since I really never cared about any male bloke outside of a bar!

 

You are right The Sea is pretty good, i have 5 BG friends there who are funny as hell, my gym mate (girl) works there occasionally, basically every night when I am there, she has the hottest body of a thai woman i have ever seen! When she was there the other night when you have been there you know who I am talking about!

 

maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post, I didn't feel threatened by them at all (though I very much dislike how they clap they hands right in front of your face and shout at you to try to get you in the bar), they just have that general thai thug look (as opposed to the effeminate male greeters/hello boys outside most of the Nana gogos). but like I said, both inside and outside the bars I did notice many more thai males than I'm used to seeing in Bangkok.

 

preahko

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I too was having trouble figuring out who these Thai thugs were? I see now that they are just the "Come inside sir. Have sexy show start now" brigade.

 

They're just doing their job trying get punters through the door.They're harmless. Just smile at them and walk past.

 

Similarly walk past touts who thrust a list of sexual acrobatics at you on Walking Street. They're on a 300 baht commission from some of the gogo bars, which you end up paying.I joke with them "Mai aow, krap. Have sexy fucking show my bedloom tomollow afternoon." :hubba:

 

I don't mind the Thai waiters in the gogos - on the whole they seem more efficient than the girls, who may be sidetracked by an amorous admirer while I'm still waiting for a drink. The blokes in Peppermint are exceptionally good.:up:

 

I do object though to the woofter male toilet attendants :down: who try to massage your neck while you're taking a leak. Have they got rid of that chap at Classroom2 yet.. Ill avoid the place until they do.

 

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Oh man, i just thought I was posting that myself under an alter ego :) 100% what I think!

 

I too was having trouble figuring out who these Thai thugs were? I see now that they are just the "Come inside sir. Have sexy show start now" brigade.

 

I smile at them all the time and get a smile back (I am smiling all the time anyways) At Soi Diamond i shake hand with the most because they see me every night, even when I never went to their bars. I rather take 1 million of the Hello Boys instead of 1 indian "Master Of Persistance" ""Hello Sir, you have nice shirt, i can make suit for you very cheap"" If I ever buy a gun in my life then it will be for them!

 

I don't mind the Thai waiters in the gogos - on the whole they seem more efficient than the girls, who may be sidetracked by an amorous admirer while I'm still waiting for a drink. The blokes in Peppermint are exceptionally good.:up:

 

Whe had a small board meeting on thursday and started off at Happy A Gogo, our waiter would survive at the Starlight Room in Manhattan. He brought the drinks extremely fast, he sorted cigarettes, phones, glasses and bottles in a very decent order so that it was good to look at and easy to reach for all of use and once i shoved the cigarettes into a different position he came to our table and brought it back in the original order! A small thing to do, but very impressive when you consider the location!

 

I do object though to the woofter male toilet attendants :down: who try to massage your neck while you're taking a leak. Have they got rid of that chap at Classroom2 yet.. Ill avoid the place until they do.

 

The Clasroom 2 bloke is the neck cracker, right? He fucking hurt me and my neck was aching for a week. I always take a leak in the stall, because I want to wipe the last 3 drops into a tissue and not my underwear (you can't shake them off) Since I don't want anyone to see me cleaning my penis I prefer the stall, no massages for me!

The bathroom attendands from Lucifer are awesome, I must have given them once too much tip, They treat me like I'd own that place. When I come to the club walking by the toilet they wai to me and when i go to the restrooms, one is escorting me to my stall, while the other one is holding the door and a third one is bringing me the paper! When I come out he is waiting for me with a hot towel! Hence they are 4 people working and 8 customers are always inside, that is nothing I would expect!

 

All of them who work in locations like that in groups I admire, they at least doing something instead of sitting on the street and drinking whiskey. Just tell them "no massage" and your problem should be solved.

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@ ct none of the above

Dutch Living near vienna for the last 10 yrs.

speak fluent Viennese dutch gets uncomfortable now.. Mixing up about 5 languages when not concentrated..

 

Language Sux.. :)

 

PTY : maybee a few nights in Feb/ Depending on how BKK is like on my way to HH. If BKK sux I will not stay in BKK on the way back but go to PTY for some sanuk.

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It's SO blatant in Pattaya...hell, half the hawkers outside the gogos are thai males! and not the effeminate inoffensive ones, the drunken muay thai brutes who would just as soon split a farang head open as get you into their [girlfriend's] bar...and in many bars, they're sitting right in there behind--or at--the fucking bar!

 

I know they're involved with all of this (primarily in leech mode), I just prefer the illusion where it's not so much in your face.

 

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preahko

 

I've spent a lot of time on WS and I've never felt any bad or offensive vibes from a Thai male around there, (except for katoeys, if you can call them males).

 

No offense intended to you, but I really think you are projecting some paranoia that is not warranted, which is not say there aren't some "Thai brutes who would love to split open a farangs head" around, but they are few and far between, imo, and a calm and pleasant attitude (always keeping in mind that we are guests in this country and we don't own it just because we have money), plus a polite smile, all go a long way towards diffusing any potential problems even with those types.

 

Good luck to you.

 

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