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I've seen him shoot a lot of pics in clolour. He uses whichever he thinks is suitable for the subject. Magazines and newspapers want colour. Also, colour pics can be printed in black and white, but not vice versa.

 

In the days of film, one always used transparencies (slides), since you can make almost anything from them.

 

 

 

 

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Tonight (Wednesday) at the FCCT

 

Thailand's Political Crisis:

Whose Human Rights?

 

Speakers:

Senator Monthian Buntan

Dr. Sriprapha Petcharamesree

 

Photojournalist Slide Show:

"What Happened on October 7, 2008?" by Nick Nostitz

 

October 7 photo 1

 

October 7 photo 2

More October 7 photos by Nick Nostitz are at:

http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/2008/10/11/what-happened-on-7102008/

 

Wednesday, October 15 at 8:00 pm

with buffet dinner at 7:00 pm

(Please see pricing and reservation procedure below)

 

 

The People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) attempted to block the country's representatives from meeting in Parliament on October 7, prompting police to fire tear gas at protesters to clear a way for lawmakers to access the building. From morning to night, police battled with demonstrators, some of whom carried clubs, iron bars and even guns, until they retreated to their base at Government House. Two were killed in the fighting and more than 470 others were injured, including about a dozen people with limbs blown off. Protesters accuse the police of using excessive force, while police deny using heavy explosives and retort that the demonstrators were hardly peace-loving democracy activists. The clashes have pushed the government to the brink yet again, with former army chief Chavalit Yongchaiyudh -- appointed to the cabinet less than a month ago -- abruptly quitting and calling for a coup.

 

The violent events last week have raised a number of key questions about the "rule of law" and "human rights" in Thailand. When is it appropriate for police to take action to disperse crowds? Can protesters still be considered peaceful if they carry weapons and violate the constitution? What about the human rights of voters who support the ruling party?

 

To discuss the fallout from the violent confrontation and attempt to shed some light on these complex issues, the club would like to welcome two speakers.

 

- Dr. Sriprapha Petcharamesree, a leading human rights advocate in Thailand, serving as a member of the Thai Working Group for an ASEAN Human Rights Mechanism. She was formerly Director of the Office of Human Rights Studies and Social Development at Mahidol University. She has also worked with UNICEF on development and humanitarian issues and helped write the country's National Human Rights Commission bill.

 

- Monthian Buntan, an appointed Senator and a leading activist for persons with disabilities in Thailand. He was president of the Thailand Blind Association and a network promoting Digital Talking Books. Monthian supports the People's Alliance for Democracy as a member of the Group of 40, which boycotted the parliamentary session last week and called on the UN Human Rights Commission to take "appropriate actions" to "prevent human rights violations in Thailand."

 

Prior to the session, the club will show a 10-minute slide show of photographs taken of the violence by Nick Nostitz, a foreign journalist who has probably spent more time than anyone else at rallies of both the Peopleâ??s Alliance for Democracy and the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship.

 

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<< Two were killed in the fighting >>

 

No, two were NOT killed in the fighting. Does anyone think the 20-some-year-old woman was brawling with the police?

 

It's worth noting that protesters in Thailand generally do usually violate the law. In the 1973 protests against the "Gang of Three", vocational students provoked the Army's violent response by breaking into buildings of the Government Lottery Bureau and trashing files and furniture. In 1976 the student protesters moved from Sanam Luang onto the Thammasat University campus and took it over. The rector had to cancel the final exams that were in progress. The idea of peaceful protest seems a bit foreign here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The bounce of a ping-pong bomb

(Asia Times)

 

Who was primarily responsible for the grisly violence which killed two people, maimed many and injured hundreds of anti-government protesters in the Thai capital on October 7? The answer to that question, now under investigation by two government-appointed panels, could have a large impact on the outcome of the countryâ??s violently escalating political conflict - and, as such, alter the course of Thai democracy.

 

One week after police fired tear-gas canisters to disperse a group of People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) protesters in front of parliament, the history of those violent events is hotly contested, with each side blaming the other for detonating improvised explosive devices, or so-called ping-pong bombs, amid the fog of the government's crackdown.

 

Local newspapers last week were splattered with gory and graphic images of bloodied protesters who lost limbs in the attacks' hazy early dawn aftermath. A protester who had half of his leg completely severed was even shown on state-controlled television. The mainstream Thai media have in the main played up the PAD-perpetuated narrative that rogue police officers likely threw the explosives, which killed two demonstrators and maimed an estimated six others.

 

continue and must read :alert:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/JJ15Ae01.html

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<< For its part, the PAD has so far parlayed the violence to its political advantage, stoking always close-to-the-surface popular resentment against the Thai police and re-energizing the movement's popular support base, which since the October 7 violence has seen a noticeable surge in its yellow-clad numbers. PAD leaders have vowed to file criminal charges against the government both in local and global courts. >>

 

As I posted earlier, Thai protests are almost always violent. Seems to be a national characteristic of Thais. (An exception was Oct 1976, when the protesters seemed to be encouraging an attack on them, but not being violent themselves.)

 

 

<< One government supporter noted without comment that royal family members did not attend the funeral service of a pro-government demonstrator who was killed in street clashes on September 2. >>

 

The red shirt who was killed was actively involved in fighting with his PAD counterparts. The Queen attented the funeral of a young woman who was killed by police gunfire (direct hit with a grenade that exploded). I see a difference.

 

 

<< but the two groups are now mobilized and seemingly on a [color:red]collusion[/color] course. >>

 

Arai wa?

 

 

 

 

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I think it has been pretty well confirmed that the Chinese tear gas grenades both thrown and fired from launchers had a bit more explosive strength then what would be considered safe to be fired into a crowd. They were designed to be fired outside the crowd and the explosive charge made for rapid spread of the gas into the crowd.

The Thai police used them as weapons, plain and simple.

 

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