Horneytorney Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 link does not work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Link works for me - and it is a very good read. Actually, much of the violence during the red shirt taker was caused by the hitmen of the godfathers. I saw their thugs riding around on motorcycles at red shirt processions, looking intentionally intimidating. The ordinary red shirt was an inoffensive Somchai, but one look at those guards and I instinctively went into a defensive posture. When the reds paraded through the city, some shop girls dared to hold up pro-yellow placards. The parade stopped and the shop girls were surrounded and told in no uncertain terms to knock that off and never do it again. I suspect that the "men in black" who were filmed firing on the army at Kok Wua intersection (right next to KSR) were private gunmen of the chao po's. (I've been told that British TV actually showed films of the gunmen attacking the soldiers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horneytorney Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 a bit of contradiction between Thaihome and Flasher according to Thaihome, the Chao Phors support UDD, according to Flasher they support the red shirts! IMO some of the Chao Phors change sides more than their shirts, like politicans...and some are politicians or their family members are MP when some think Thaksin has a bright future, they join him; if his star is declining, they join the opposite site. and the fractions in this power struggle are not stable, many powerful persons are moving from one side to the other (and back). I do not believe that this has anything to do with a change in society, raise of the middle class or the poors or development towards a more democratic political system. it is just a power struggle between different fractions of elites. The middle class and the poor are just tools to achieve more power, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 IMO some of the Chao Phors change sides more than their shirts, like politicans...and some are politicians or their family members are MP I agree most of those support the man or now the woman in power and will change to next in power.... (Don't forget that families of Thaksin and Pojaman (khunying Ah) are thai-chinese - the first not so rich but second very rich.) On the other side I don't see this is especially thai - they do the same in USA and all other democracies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 a bit of contradiction between Thaihome and Flasher according to Thaihome, the Chao Phors support UDD, according to Flasher they support the red shirts! IMO some of the Chao Phors change sides more than their shirts, like politicans...and some are politicians or their family members are MP when some think Thaksin has a bright future, they join him; if his star is declining, they join the opposite site. and the fractions in this power struggle are not stable, many powerful persons are moving from one side to the other (and back). I do not believe that this has anything to do with a change in society, raise of the middle class or the poors or development towards a more democratic political system. it is just a power struggle between different fractions of elites. The middle class and the poor are just tools to achieve more power, nothing else. The UDD are the red shirts! The yellow guys are the PADs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thaskin will return after they change Taksin Bridge to Thaskin Bridge and change the Marco Polo statue near the Temple of the Dawn to a statue of Thaskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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