Flashermac Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Victims of the recent political clashes in several parts of Bangkok have described the violence that has taken place this month. The first flashpoint was at Ramkhamhaeng University on the night of November 30. The second scene was close to Government House on December 1-3 when anti-government protesters tried to enter and seize Government House and the Metropolitan Police Bureau headquarters. The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration's Erawan emergency medical service said that as of this Thursday, at least 64 people had been injured in clashes near Ramkhamhaeng University and four people died. About 12 of the injured were admitted to hospital. A further 220 people were injured during confrontations between anti-government demonstrators and police near Government House and the Metropolitan Police Bureau. Of these, 11 were admitted at hospitals. Yesterday, the Erawan emergency centre reported that three people had been injured in two clashes near the anti-government demonstration near the Finance Ministry and Khok Wua Intersection in Banglamphu. They were sent for medical treatment at three hospitals - Rajavithi, Vachira and Klang. A 46-year-old man had what looked like a gunshot wound to his arm, a spokesman at the centre said. He was sent from the anti-government rally at the Finance Ministry to Rajavithi Hospital. Two other people were sent from Khok Wua Intersection with injuries after a clash between a motorcycle gang and anti-government protesters. A 35-year-old man, who was sent to Klang Hospital, had a ragged wound on his right hand and finger. And an 18-year-old, who was sent to Vachira Hospital, had a stab wound to his left rib. A rescue team from Rajapipat Hospital, who took the two men to the hospitals, reported a loud explosion near Khok Wua Intersection. Kaew (not his real name), 23, who was shot in the right knee, said he was in Ramkhamhaeng University throughout the night on November 30. He could not get out of the building because he heard a loud explosion and the sound of gunshots near the university. But at 7am on December 1 - last Sunday - he decided to run out of the building, as he wanted to go home. At that time, there was an announcement to warn students and other people inside the university not to go out of their buildings. When he did, he was shot in his right knee, then sent to Rajavithi Hospital. Meanwhile, Chai (not his real name), 23, also was shot in his lower leg while inside "Ram" University at 7am on Sunday. He said the gunshot came from an elevated road in front of the university. Like Kaew, Chai was inside the university all night on November 30 as he heard gunshots and explosion throughout the night. "Actually, I really wanted to go home on November 30 but I could not because my younger brother did not want to go home. So I decided to stay with my brother, but we could not get out of the building as explosion-like sounds and gunshots occurred throughout the night," he said. At 7am on Sunday, he decided to get out of the building to go home and was shot in the leg when he reached the university gate. Nan (not her real name), 52, said she joined the battle between anti-government protesters and police at Chamai Maruchet Bridge. She was hurt by tear gas at 2pm on Sunday while hiding from street clashes under the library at Rajamangala University of Technology Phra Nakhon. She said she saw some tear-gas canisters thrown from a building in Phitsanulok Road near the confrontation site. She was sent to a mobile medical unit near the protest site, but is now being treated at Ramathibhodi Hospital for the wound to her right hand. Number of victims: The total casualties from political turmoil in Bangkok from November 30 to December 6: Injured: 289 Injured with bullets: 8 Treated: 25 In ICU: 4 Deaths: 4 Source: Public Health Ministry and Bangkok Metropolitan Administration's Erawan emergency medical service centre. http://www.nationmul...d-30221522.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huumlaar Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Seems odd from reports that one Ram Uni student killed (assume on anti govermnent side) 2 Red supporters, and 1 "None" red who was off to joing the reds as a guard (pay must be good) Hmmm. Those Reds are thugs aren't they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Put on your thinking cap. There are some people who really want to see violence. How about doing some ballistics tests? Wouldn't it be interesting if the same folks were shooting at both the protesters and the reds? Hint - recognise the "uniform"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Students left under siege as day turned to nightmare ... << Spectrum has learned that there were bloody confrontations in Ramkhamhaeng Soi 24 behind the university and stadium as red shirts, at least half a dozen believed to be armed, and students carrying bats and rocks attacked each other. Our team was also told of how men in police uniforms stood idly by as the fighting took place. A 29-year-old Cambodian worker living in a small tin worker's shed under the stairs of a stadium under construction at the university, was unlucky enough to be struck by a stray bullet, but Spectrum was told by other workers at the site that bullets had penetrated their tin sheds and they showed us the bullet holes as proof. As the violence raged and the majority of students sought haven inside the university, it still remains a mystery as to why the police refused to answer a request for help from the university's rector, Assoc Prof Wuthisak Larpcharoensap, or why the organisers of the red shirt rally were allowed to stage the event at the stadium when it was public knowledge that many Ramkhamhaeng students and academics are antagonistic towards the government. >> http://bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/383732/students-left-under-siege-as-day-turned-to-nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitagawn Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Put on your thinking cap. There are some people who really want to see violence. How about doing some ballistics tests? Wouldn't it be interesting if the same folks were shooting at both the protesters and the reds? Wel well well.good point Flash Hint - recognise the "uniform"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 The folks in black shirts fired on the soldiers at Kok Wua in 2010, killing the commander of the Queen's Guard and starting the violence. (There are photos of them firing, which I'm told were even shown in the UK.) And the folks in black shirts also fired 40mm HE grenades from M79s at the Saladaeng BTS station. Plus who do you suppose had been firing M79s at soldiers at the gates of the military bases on Wipawadee Road? Third hand ... but for whom and what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Nick Nostitz's account of the Ramkhamhaeng events on the night of Nov 30th/Dec 01st. http://asiapacific.a...de-the-stadium/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 "Vocational college students and other hardcore anti-government protesters roomed the upper sois of Ramkhamhaeng and Lad Phrao Roads ..." Interesting in that the voc students are the real proles, kids from working class families. And Ramkhamhaeng is the open admission "people's university", one that allows students to study while they work and take up to 8 years to graduate. In other words, this is not "amart" versus "prai". It is regional and cuts across social classes. As Nick puts it, "The university is simply a reflection of general Thai society which is deeply split in the political color code, and to a large part, but by not exclusively, along regional lines." Thank you for that, Mr. Thaksin, well done indeed. The vocational students were the "warriors" in the rising against the military government of Thanom and Prapas in October 1973, and were eager participants in the attack on the leftist students gathered at Thammasat in October 1976. When they are not fighting for politics, they take their aggression out on each other. The dead red shirt Army conscript: "His whole family are active Red Shirts, both his wife and parents were that night in the Rajamangala Stadium as well." This is completely contrary to the news interviews with the wife, who allegedly said she knew nothing about her husband's political activities. So who is right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldFun Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 looking forward to the DSI/CAPO/police report on the killings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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