Ec Defends Its Proposals To Overhaul Political System

[Flashermac]

The Election Commission (EC) yesterday denied that its reform plan put to the National Council for Peace and Order last week came at the expense of politicians, saying its intentions were above-board - to make polls free and fair and allow only good people to serve the public.

 

"We did not suggest the proposal by following someone's order. We don't want to please anyone in particular. We just want to give good solutions to the junta, which asked us for our opinion," EC member Somchai Srisutthiyakorn told Nation Multimedia Group.

 

The EC's recommended measures have been heavy criticised, especially by politicians, with some claim they restrict MPs' rights.

 

But its proposals may be just a small part of a large number made by other agencies to the junta under its request, he said.

 

"It may be just one of the 100 replies [the junta received]," he said, adding that it was too early to say if any of them would be adopted.

 

The proposals were submitted to Surasak Kanjanarat, permanent secretary of the Defence Ministry, who heads the NCPO's reform panel.

 

Among the more controversial parts was one limiting members of parliament to two consecutive four-year terms.

 

Somchai said he did not make the proposal or believe such measures could really prevent political families from extending their influence, as spouses, children and relatives of ex-politicians could always replace them as proxies.

 

The suggestion to have half of MPs coming from the party-list system would boost the chance of small parties competing with bigger parties and reorient all parties towards vying more on policies, he said.

 

All senators should be appointed, as electing them "won't do any good", he said.

 

"The process of obtaining them would be like that of MPs and we would end up creating a fiefdom of spouses of MPs and senators," he said.

 

However, the selection process for the Upper House should be made more fair, rigorous, inclusive and representative than the existing one where a panel of seven people has the final say.

 

Somchai also threw his weight behind an idea to try to stop political parties from campaigning on specific monetary promises or populist policies that voters will enjoy in return for their votes.

 

Pheu Thai Party's policy of raising the minimum wage to Bt300 per day was an example. Such policies may not be sustainable and such ploys could see parties competing on populist policies for votes. While political parties should have the right to espouse concrete policies, they should not specify fiscal figures, he said.

 

On the bigger picture, politicians were to blame for the coup, he said, as they were unwilling to compromise and this eventually led to the power seizure on May 22.

 

"Politicians didn't try to protect democracy and that's why the situation is like this. They should have learnt to take some steps back and be flexible. If [the then ruling Pheu Thai Party] had accepted [the EC's proposal to defer the election], the situation today wouldn't be like this."

 

But protracted political division was still festering and only temporarily submerged by the NCPO.

 

"It's as if it's under the water," he said of the dormant political rift.

 

 

Key points in Election Commission reform proposals

 

Senate: Appointed only.

 

Electoral system: A mixed system of both constituency-based and party-list MPs should be maintained. The number of constituency-based MPs, however, should be reduced to the same number of party-list MPs. As a result, each constituency should still have one MP but its size will be bigger.

 

MPs: Their term should be limited to two consecutive four-year terms. Their parents, children, and spouses should be banned from running in the same election term. People convicted of election fraud, drug offences, and lese majeste should be banned from running in an election.

 

Cabinet: Prime ministers and Cabinet members who have stepped down or lost their posts should not serve as caretakers, with permanent secretaries taking over.

 

Election Commission: The EC should be solely responsible for scheduling an election date without requiring approval from the PM.

 

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/EC-defends-its-proposals-to-overhaul-political-sys-30238422.html

[robaus]

It doesn’t sound very democratic.

 

>> All senators should be appointed, as electing them "won't do any good", he said.

>> to make polls free and fair and allow only good people to serve the public.

>> Somchai also threw his weight behind an idea to try to stop political parties from campaigning on specific monetary promises or populist policies that voters will enjoy in return for their votes.

 

...ridiculous...so an election candidate will not be allowed to say what he wants to do to improve people’s lives. ...and guess who will be selecting all the senators, deciding who is a good person, and what is populist and what isn't.

 

It will be interesting to see whether anyone bothers to ask the Thai people whether they approve of the new constitution by way of a referendum.

[radioman]

It doesn’t sound very democratic.

 

>> All senators should be appointed, as electing them "won't do any good", he said.

 

 

As to if it would "do any good" I couldn't say but an unelected upper house is not unknown in countries often considered democracies.

[Flashermac]

Ever heard of the UK's House of Lords? It has limited power, but can delay legislation for reconsideration.

 

<< The House of Lords scrutinises Bills that have been approved by the House of Commons. It regularly reviews and amends Bills from the Commons. While it is unable to prevent Bills passing into law, except in certain limited circumstances, it can delay Bills and force the Commons to reconsider their decisions. In this capacity, the Lords acts as a check on the House of Commons that is independent from the electoral process. In addition to its role as the upper house, until the establishment of the Supreme Court in 2009, the House of Lords, through the Law Lords, acted as the final court of appeal in the British judicial system. >>

 

Having two elected houses with the same powers if pointless. If that is all that Thailand wants, it may as well be unicameral.

[robaus]

Would you like an unelected upper house appointed by Obama in the USA?..and if not, why not?

[Guest]

Are you saying the centuries old system of democracy in the UK is undemocratic and not an example to be followed

[Flashermac]

Would you like an unelected upper house appointed by Obama in the USA?..and if not, why not?

 

 

Actually, members of the U.S. Senate were formerly appointed by the state legislatures, not elected by the voters. That was changed in 1913 by the 17th Amendment to the Constitution.

[baa99]

Actually, members of the U.S. Senate were formerly appointed by the state legislatures, not elected by the voters. That was changed in 1913 by the 17th Amendment to the Constitution.

 

So will any elected body appoint Thailand's senators?

[baa99]

Are you saying the centuries old system of democracy in the UK is undemocratic and not an example to be followed

 

The House of Lords has very limited powers.

[Flashermac]

New Zealand gets along well enough with only one house. Of course, you could probably fit the entire population of NZ into one major Bangkok shopping mall.