History Time ... From A Thai Perspective

[Flashermac]

[YimSiam]

If it hasn't been banned yet, it's probably not worth the fifty-one minutes of shoddy internet connection that I have presently... Any highlights?

[waerth]

I basically stopped the video when it came to .... Japan invaded Mongolia .... ermmmmm There were some Soviet - Japanese border clashes in 1939 but apart from that Japan never attempted an invasion of Mongolia because that would have put them at war with the Soviets. Something they avoided.

 

If you make a documentary like this, at least get the basic facts straight :/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol

[Flashermac]

It's a decent Thai video about a rural Thai doctor who risked his life - and his family's - to help the prisoners on the Death Railway. He smuggled medicine in to the camp's "hospital" and would have been killed on the spot if the Nipponese gents had discovered it. He was friends was Weary Dunlap, who appears with him in photos later in the video.

 

Unfortunately, whoever did the English subtitles was a doufas. For one thing, he calls the Allies the Axis! Lots of interviews with survivors of that time, including the doctor's family. Worth watching despite the errors the "English speaker" made in the subtitles. It gives an accurate picture of the times.

[My Penis is hungry]

Japan did invade "Inner Mongolia" as it was called, part of China, Mongolia, the second Soviet I think ever proclaimed was one of those countries that covered a far wider area than what became it's eventual borders. So not a major mistake,

[waerth]

Inner Mongolia was a part of China, not a seperate country. So yes a major error. And it wasn't called inner Mongolia it still is called inner Mongolia.

 

The Netherands also used to cover a far wider area then what eventually became its borders, but we do not call Belgium the Netherlands now do we?

Same for Austria also used to cover a far wider area then what became its eventual borders etc etc etc etc.

[cavanami]

Inner Mongolia was a part of China, not a seperate country. So yes a major error. And it wasn't called inner Mongolia it still is called inner Mongolia.

 

The Netherands also used to cover a far wider area then what eventually became its borders, but we do not call Belgium the Netherlands now do we?

 

No one wants to claim Belgium

[My Penis is hungry]

No Waerth, it's more complicated than that, there was "Mongolia" and Outer Mongolia, and Southern Mongolia. The disintegration of the Chinese Empire caused many little and larger nation states to emerge, so yes, Japan did invade Mongolia. If your not going to watch a movie because of a historical inaccuracy, maybe you should learn the history first.

[waerth]

Yes many areas in China in the 20's and 30's were ruled by warlords claiming to be their own independent states. This apart from the Kwomintang and Nationalists under Tsjiang Kai Tsjek. China was consumed by a raging civil war.

 

But just because of that.The Mongol nation state of the 19th or 20th centuries never occupied Inner Mongolia. At Yalta in 1945 they tried to claim the area, but did not succeed. So ergo the Japanese never invaded Mongolia. You relearn history. Just because two entities have similar names doesnt mean they are the same. Now if you want to argue about the inhabitants of inner-Mongolian being ethnic Mongolian ..... but that does not a nation-state make.

 

I am pretty up to snuff with history especially the interbellum and WWII

[cavanami]

Can you post a map for us that are mentally challenged