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The 3-times on a tourist visa is related to the total number of days in one year. Normally a tourist visa is for 60 days. 3 times will constitute 180 days. And 180 days is the maximum per year you may stay in Thailand as a tourist. Longer than 180 days per calendar year and one become a resident for tax purposes. This is the case many countries inclusing the EU. So 10 times per year on a short trip of 10 days, no problem.

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flyonzewall said:

well, but you should consider that many farang here do have the status now of "illegal" who do jobs such as teachers or professors because the do not meet the new minimum financial requirements for foreigners.

i wonder for example how local hire university professors at government universities will be able to renew their workpermits as their salaries are around 20K a month (and strictly speaking - the freelance work they pick up is against the law and therfore cannot be stated in their applications) while the new regulations state that in order to qualify for a workpermit an american has to have 50K a month minimum, a european 45K, etc according to nationality.

 

Teachers are exempt, as are journalists.

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Any idea on how one goes about demonstrating that one has funds coming in from abroad? Particularly when one is, say, entering Thailand at BKK or some land checkpont...

 

In the past I've just taken cash advances out on my Visa debit card.

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Here is an answer from thaiimmigration.com which clarifies their position:

 

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To our best knowledge the regulative saying ?3 consecutive entries = 6 months out? has never and are NOT going to be enforced. That?s NOT what we are saying. (It?s very unlikely it ever will be, because why should we limit tourists from coming and spend money in Thailand?)

 

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What is going to be implemented, and now everybody please read carefully, is following:

In cases where we find reason to be suspicious about people?s whereabouts and way of financing their stay in Thailand, we will, very politely and nice, ask people about it, and maybe request to see some evidence in that regard.

 

And you don?t need to bring your accountant and/or your last 10 years of accountants work with you in the regard of evidence. If you?re here as a genuine tourist, you will surely have some ATM/Credit Card receipts in your wallet. Show them to the officer together with the cards and you?re done. The name in the passport match the card(s), the card(s) match the receipts, and the receipts show money are drawn from abroad. That?s it. The check will then take less than 15 seconds. And it?s only performed if the Immigration officer has reason to be suspicious.

 

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We are clearly saying ?in a not to far away future?. It isn?t implemented yet. We don?t have the equipment yet at all Immigration checkpoints. But if everything goes with the present speed, it?ll be up and running within this year.

 

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Why is it implemented? It?s illegal to work in Thailand on a tourist visa, but even so many foreigners are doing it and have been doing so for years.

 

Why do you think for example foreign teachers are getting so poorly paid in Thailand, as many are complaining about they are? Because the cue of desperate foreigners without proper funds and/or papers to stay and support a living in Thailand, and therefore is willing to work for small money, is quite long. Is that fair to foreigners staying and living legally here, having all the hassle providing the right papers to do so? Is it fair to Thailand that these people don?t pay taxes? Is it fair to anybody else than those taking advantage of this situation? Is it so bad that we are trying to clean up a little?

 

So please, if you one day should get stopped and asked a few questions, don?t get offended, but understand that we are just asking for your help to make Thailand an even better place for law obeying foreigners to stay in.

 

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Why we are promoting it now is because we don?t want to catch anybody when time comes. We want to give people staying here a fair chance of getting things straight, so that they suddenly don?t get a shock getting caught and have to leave wife, children, and whatever else they might have in Thailand within 5 to 10 days. We do not wish that to happen to anybody. On the other hand Immigration is a police force, and it?s our job to secure that people obey our laws if they want to stay here. Please understand that.

 

 

Please everybody; don?t make it more difficult or complicated than it is. There is absolutely no reason for that.

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only journalists working for local newspapers are excempt from the minimum financial requirements, not journalists in general.

the poster should read the new regulations more accurately.

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"Only performed if the Immigration Officer has any reason to be suspicious," eh? That means if his funds are low, and he needs a bribe. Seems to be a new opportunity for graft.

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would like to observe that from Escape rabbit's OP to Jdietz's clarification there seems a definite softening re stringency of proposed requirements...and both from the same source apparently....ferment behind the scenes?....or characteristic fuzziness of thai officialdom?

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"Why do you think for example foreign teachers are getting so poorly paid in Thailand, as many are complaining about they are? Because the cue of desperate foreigners without proper funds and/or papers to stay and support a living in Thailand, and therefore is willing to work for small money, is quite long. Is that fair to foreigners staying and living legally here, having all the hassle providing the right papers to do so? Is it fair to Thailand that these people don?t pay taxes? Is it fair to anybody else than those taking advantage of this situation? Is it so bad that we are trying to clean up a little?"

 

Great point!

 

The falang community should have been self regulating themselves - which would have prevented further government regulations - but instead, in some cases, have been promoting some of the people who have brought forth this very problem! It seems that we are are own enemy.

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