kohchaiBKK Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 A good friend, a Doctor, just sent me a cache of wellbutrin SR (150 mg) to help me quit. No info on the dosage, though. Anybody have an idea on how many to take and when. Anybody have any experience with it? Side effects, success rate, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thalenoi Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 KochaiBKK. Stop smoking? I decided to stop smoking may 4th 2000 (smoked more than 30 years). Almost 16 months now, no real problems, no medication. From time to time (once a week?) a few seconds i would like to have a smoke. Will stay clean the rest of my life. Around 1989 fell in love with a BG addicted to heroin. The condition I put on her to have her as live in was to end the heroin consumption. Took her two months to decide. Then on a wednesday she said : "today last day I smoke herion" She did. Took me 11 years to decide same same for smoking tobacco. Should have done this 10 years earlier. You don't need medication, only a definite decision. [ August 26, 2001: Message edited by: thalenoi ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomc12 Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 It is important to start Wellbutrin (Zyban) at one tablet per day for 3-5 days, before moving up to therapeutic levels of 1 tablet twice a day. This lessens the incidence of seizures. After you have been on 2 tablets/day for a week, start using one of the nicotine patches and stop smoking. Using the patch alone has a success rate of 20-25%; using Wellbutrin and the patch increases the success rate to around 40-50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 Just out of curiosity........ What are the dangers and risk of chewing tobacco? I guess lung cancer and emphysema are ruled out... Btw, have been nicotine free for 2 weeks now. Not easy but I agree with the above poster who said that the only way to stop is to make the decision and just DO it. This is my third attempt at giving up.....my other two attempts in the last 10 years each lasted for a year. So, I'm not gonna start congratulating myself until I get way past the 12 month mark. cheers... One handy hint for any smokers wanting to give it up. I believe it's more habit and association than actual physical addiction and it's the things that you associate with cigarette smoking that makes it really hard to stop. Eg., socialising, drinking coffee, having a beer, sitting at the computer!.... So a good way to beat the urge is to do all these things excessively. eg, drink coffee copiously without a cigarette and you will find that the association of your cigarette and coffee will be extinguised and so will the urge. Basic psychology really. The result is you may develop a caffeine addiction and a few sleepless nights . But which is better? [ August 28, 2001: Message edited by: Dan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thalenoi Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Dan, Let me congratulate you for having stopped smoking. I feel really a lot better since I did (and saves money for sanuk, hey hey) I agree with the tricks you mention to divert your thoughts from smoking, just watchout not to grasp to candies, unless these are LOS ladies. Where I disagree is concerning the addiction. Yes, tobacco is a drug, and those who produce cigarettes did a good job in adding even more addictive products besides the nicotine. These companies are nothing more than criminals. I mentionned in my post I lived with an heroin addicted BG. I experienced her going through an overdose, it was hell. After she quit the heroin she moved to booze to compensate. She helped me to get rid of the last drop of alcohol in my house and i stopped buying anything related to alcohol. So we were left with tobaco.... At last that is history as well. So I stopped drinking and smoking, not the sanuk. No way... This year 2 one month trips to LOS, half november the next one. Have a good time Originally posted by Dan: [QB] have been nicotine free for 2 weeks now. Not easy but I agree with the above poster who said that the only way to stop is to make the decision and just DO it. This is my third attempt at giving up.....my other two attempts in the last 10 years each lasted for a year. So, I'm not gonna start congratulating myself until I get way past the 12 month mark. cheers... One handy hint for any smokers wanting to give it up. I believe it's more habit and association than actual physical addiction and it's the things that you associate with cigarette smoking that makes it really hard to stop. Eg., socialising, drinking coffee, having a beer, sitting at the computer!.... So a good way to beat the urge is to do all these things excessively. eg, drink coffee copiously without a cigarette and you will find that the association of your cigarette and coffee will be extinguised and so will the urge. Basic psychology really. The result is you may develop a caffeine addiction and a few sleepless nights . But which is better? QUOTE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iono Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Zyban is the way to go I chewed tabaco for years and could never quit. Zyban helped me quit with out killing my family. 3 years and 400 pounds later still chew free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Just a simple question. To stop smoking is supposed to be good for your sexlife. Did you notice any improvement after stopping? I am thinking of stopping lately, this would be an added bonus. To be honest, the reason for wanting to stop is not so much consideration of health risks, but plain vanity. I have to go to my dentist every four months now to remove the stains, and I feel ever more conscious of that. [ August 29, 2001: Message edited by: woefta ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CondomKing Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Saw a US TV show about mens' sexuality which stated that cigarette smoking is the leading cause of impotence in men over forty. Seemed to make sense. Something to do with the constriction of the blood vessels needed supply the blood for an erection. Also saw another news report that stated cigarettes contained something like 300 (!) identifiable toxic gases. Exaggeration? Maybe, maybe not. That was enough for me. I thought about those two effects that tobacco was having on my body and everytime I lit a cigarette after that I felt foolish and they started tasting like rope. It wasn't very long until I was unable to smoke cigarettes anymore. Best wishes to all those who are still smoking and want to quit. Reinforcing the negative consequences worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohchaiBKK Posted August 29, 2001 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 to iono Unless I've been misinformed by pharmacists and doctors, Wellbutrin and xyban are pretty much the same drug. In the U.S., If your Doctor prescribes Xyban, it is expensive and not covered by most insurance. Wellbutrin, however, is covered. I'm under the impression that the main difference between the two is due more to the power of the Pharmaceutical lobby than to anything related to chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhordPhan Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Dan: Just out of curiosity........ What are the dangers and risk of chewing tobacco? I guess lung cancer and emphysema are ruled out... Dan, Aside from being clobbered repeatedly by wife/gf for spitting in every spare container within arm's length... the risks are actually related to the mouth. Usually some form of cancer, possibly in the cheek, gum, lip, etc. Many years ago I saw a picture of my step-father's father. It was taken a few years before he died. He'd chewed tobacco most of his adult life, in the days before "smokeless tobacco". The docs had removed most of his lower lip due to cancer. Pretty grisly sight. Made me swear off even thinking about chewing. PhordPhan Phancier of phine cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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