the_numbers Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 A large (around 6 to 7,000 people) healthy study commissioned in Kenya and Uganda on HIV transmission found definitively yesterday that circumcision decreases the likelihood of contracting the fatal virus :o So, I guess buddha should take note, and anyone riding bareback. Not proof of safety, and not an endorsement of sticking your cock in any wet orifice, but it is something new about the disease. Remember all those people who said foreskin was dirty??? :eek: Maybe they were right? Don't have a link, but surely will be more about this soon. Researchers said the results in the study were so definitive that there is almost 0 likelihood of clinical era i.e. it was not a small variation. CNN is rattling on about it now. Yowza. theNumbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 This is actually not new, I saw it discussed at least a year ago. But they don't know why - maybe the skin gets harder, maybe smaller risk for infections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_numbers Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Either way this study sort of galvanizes that whole claim, which I had previously heard of as well... Something to know given that the AIDS vaccine is not gonna ever come along, as a salvation ala polio. Cheers, theNumbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Even better is it to have the right genes, I think it's confirmed that 10-15 % of the population in scandinavia are immune against HIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglesoup Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 i could believe this, not about the scandanavians, although i ve heard tjhat before also. I know when i ve been having sex that sometimes when i look behind the foreskin thw=e skin is delicate and raw sometimes. I also think cock size may have something to do with it.The bigger your cock then the skin is going to be under more strain in a tight minge. Whereas smaller cocked men will not have there cock under the same strain so less likely to break...????? just a thought. Black people seem to get it more and they are known to have bigger cocks so ya never know... sorry about all the technical language ( cock,minge etc)The last AIDS convention I spoke at fell into silence when i made these suggestions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soiarrai Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 BBC News http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6176209.stm Last Updated: Wednesday, 13 December 2006, 17:38 GMT Circumcision 'cuts' HIV infection Foreskin cells are thought to be more vulnerable to HIV infection Circumcision can cut the rate of HIV infection in heterosexual men by 50%, results from two African trials show. The findings are so striking, the US National Institutes of Health decided it would be unethical to continue and stopped the trials early. It supports a previous South African study which reported similar results. Experts said it was a significant breakthrough but could not replace standard methods of preventing infection such as condoms. The two trials of around 8,000 men took place in Uganda and Kenya were due to finish in July and September 2007 respectively. But after an interim review of the data by the NIH Data and Safety Monitoring Board decided to halt the trials as it was unethical not to offer circumcision in the men who were acting as controls. Bleeding less likely The trial in Kenya found a 53% reduction in new HIV infections in heterosexual men who were circumcised while the Ugandan study reported a drop of 48%. Results last year from a study in 3,280 heterosexual men in South Africa, which was also stopped early, showed a 60% drop in the incidence of new infections in men who had been circumcised. There are several reasons why circumcision may protect against HIV infection. Specific cells in the foreskin may be potential targets for HIV infection and also the skin under the foreskin becomes less sensitive and is less likely to bleed reducing risk of infection following circumcision. When Aids first began to emerge in Africa, researchers noted that men who were circumcised seemed to be less at risk of infection but it was unclear whether this was due to differences in sexual behaviour. A modelling study done by international Aids experts earlier this year showed that male circumcision could avert about six million HIV infections and three million deaths in sub-Saharan Africa. A further trial in Uganda to assess the risk of HIV transmission to female partners is due to report in 2008 but the effect among men who have sex with men has not yet been studied. Implementation Dr Kevin De Cock, director of the HIV/Aids department of the World Health Organization told the BBC the results were a "significant scientific advance" but were not a magic bullet and would never replace existing prevention strategies. "We will have to convene a meeting which we hope will happen quite soon to review the data in more detail and have discussions about the implications. "This is an intervention that must be embedded with all the other interventions and precautions we have. Men must not consider themselves protected. It's a very important intervention to add to our prevention armamentarium." Dr De Cock said that countries in Africa who wanted to use this approach would still have to decide what age groups to target and there would have to be training and hygienic practices in place. "This is about as good epidemiological data as we can request. There will be many other research questions about implementation but this is very persuasive." NIH director Dr Elias Zerhouni said: "Male circumcision performed safely in a medical environment complements other HIV prevention strategies and could lessen the burden of HIV/Aids, especially in countries in sub-Saharan Africa where, according to the 2006 estimates from UNAids, 2.8 million new infections occurred in a single year." Dr Jeckoniah Ndinya-Achola, co-principal investigator at the University of Nairobi, Kenya said: "The Ministry of Health of the Kenyan government is already holding discussions about how this can be made available. It will need a certain amount of improvement to existing facilities." But Tom Elkins, Senior Policy Officer at the National AIDS Trust warned: "There is a real danger in sending out a message that circumcision can protect against HIV. This is not the case and could lead to an increase in unprotected sex. "There is still a long way to go in providing comprehensive prevention programmes in many countries, and resources should go into normalising the use of condoms, which are the most effective method currently available for preventing HIV." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 More on it. (Just don't let a Thai do it to you with a machete ...) http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyid=2006-12-13T205927Z_01_N13463413_RTRUKOC_0_US-AIDS-CIRCUMCISION.xml&src=rss&rpc=22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soiarrai Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 More on it. (Just don't let a Thai do it to you with a machete ...) especially monks bearing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcatta Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Haha The foreskin protects the head so when it is gone the head gets a bit more 'tough'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_numbers Posted December 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 If a Thai monk chops it with a machete would that be a Thai "brisk"??? I know nothing of Judaism... so those on the board with divine knowledge please sound off on this specific cock knowledge Exposure toughens alot of things up. Including some of those haggard lot at Nana beer garden and Soi 7 Thanks for that BBC link and Dr. De Cock.. what a fucking amazing name for the man involved in these trials. Cheers, theNumbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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