Barry Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Maybe the wrong place to put this, but I heard there's a Legionaires outbreak at the Grand Tropicana in Phuket at the moment. 5 confirmed cases and numerous rooms vacated. Being kept quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooNoi Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I've often looked at crappy looking airconditioners in LOS and wondered how there aren't more cases of this. Maybe its not reported and kept quiet. I wouldn't think regular servicing of ac units would be high on the agenda in a lot of places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dali Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Interesting. Don't really know much about Legionaires disease, but I thought it came from a central HVAC system. I assume the Grand Tropicana, like most hotels in Phuket, has individual room HVAC systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 They had legionella for years in a big shopping mall in a city in Sweden, experts from all over the world tried everything to get rid of it but it came back all the time. Of course they didn't inform the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Probably not reported. Back in the USA I had a culture test done on my knee before Christmas time. Got the results back the other day (over one month ago). The infection was MRSA which is highly contagious. We might knock Thailand, but developed countries act stupid also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Is it actually spread through the aircon or by the action of air bubbling through the water tanks on the roof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 What they explained to me the legionella is growing inside the ventilation system near or on the aircon machines and is spread by the ventilation system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I've read of this hotel from various Finnish discussion boards and last year they had a really bad stomach bacteria outbreak there. Nearly all tourists who stayed there fell sick and had food poisoning kind of symptoms. The outbrake did fade away a little when they stopped using tap water for washing the breakfast buffet salads. The current outreak maybe has also something to do with water pipes as you can catch legionnaire by breathing when showering in infected water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I think it has to be standing water. So it might have found it's way into the water tanks. I remember when the Melbourne aquarium opened, there was an outbreak very soon after. They said that they think it was in the soil there (by the riverbank) and that the excavations disturbed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Common sources of Legionella include cooling towers used in industrial cooling water systems as well as in large central air conditioning systems, domestic hot water systems, fountains, and similar disseminators that draw upon a public water supply. Natural sources include freshwater ponds and creeks. Recent research in the Journal of Infectious Diseases provides evidence that Legionella pneumophila, the causative agent of Legionnaires disease, can travel at least 6 km from its source by airborne spread. It was previously believed that transmission of the bacterium was restricted to much shorter distances. A team of French scientists reviewed the details of an epidemic of Legionnaires disease that took place in Pas-de-Calais in northern France in 2003â??2004. There were 86 confirmed cases during the outbreak, of whom 18 perished. The source of infection was identified as a cooling tower in a petrochemical plant, and an analysis of those affected in the outbreak revealed that some infected people lived as far as 6â??7 km from the plant.[3] wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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