Torneyboy Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I needed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 ok, here the new ranking... so far 1. Button/Brawn 2. Barricchello/Brawn 3. Trull/Toyota 4. Glock/Toyota 5. Alonso/Renault 6. Rosberg/Williams 7. Buemi/Toro Rosso 8. Bourdais/Toro Rosso this weekend: Malaysia Grand Prix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Looks like some fiddling is going on in F1. Reminds me of US and Thai election results. Does someone have an agenda? So Hamilton is disqualified. What happened to Trulli's penalty??? p.s. How many races has Hamilton had taken from him now in his short career? "We are disappointed by what has happened but in the circumstances we are not going to appeal," said McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh. He added: "There is no implication that Lewis lied to the stewards. "As I understand there is a belief that the team was not explicit enough in the content of the radio communications to the stewards. "What they believe is that the omission of the information about the radio communication between the team was withheld and that is misleading. "I believe it was a harsh decision. Lewis made a legitimate pass and then was repassed - at the time the team asked race control several times about the repass but they were too busy to answer that question so we felt the decision in the immediate aftermath was fair. "I think it's a regrettable day. It certainly wasn't a deliberate attempt (to mislead the stewards)." BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 McLaren suspend sporting director after Melbourne controversy McLaren have suspended Dave Ryan from his position as sporting director following yesterday's disqualification of Lewis Hamilton by race stewards from the Australian Formula One Grand Prix. Ryan was the team member who attended a stewards' hearing - along with Hamilton - following Sunday's race, and was subsequently found to have lied in a bid to see the reigning world champion claim third. (...) As the situation is a serious breach of the International Sporting Code, the FIA have it within their power to pursue the matter further. If the case is referred to the World Motor Sport Council, they could choose to suspend or exclude Hamilton from the Formula One world championship. An FIA spokesperson confirmed: "Given the seriousness of this matter, we cannot rule out further action at this stage." http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/apr/03/motorsports-formulaone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 You might think somebody has it in for McLaren. They shafted them year before last, and now may be out to get them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Bring it on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 What is the true cost of McLaren's mistake? A single point can be priceless in Formula 1. Lewis Hamilton lost the championship by just one point in 2007 but captured the drivers' crown by the same margin the following season. Now a single point - the difference between third and fourth place at last weekend's Australian Grand Prix - has cost Hamilton and his McLaren team dearly. First of all, it looks to have cost sporting director Dave Ryan his job. After 35 years with the team, he's been suspended. It has put a severe dent in the world champion's reputation and has also called into question once more the integrity of McLaren. Martin Whitmarsh has only been installed as team principal in succession to Ron Dennis for little over a month and already he is in the eye of a storm entirely of the team's own making. Hamilton was disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix on Thursday after he and McLaren were found guilty of "deliberately misleading" the race stewards in the aftermath of the Melbourne race. As a result of Hamilton's explanation, Toyota's Jarno Trulli was demoted from third to 12th for passing the McLaren under safety car conditions and Hamilton promoted to third from fourth. But new evidence from the McLaren pit radio has revealed the team had instructed Hamilton to let Trulli re-pass him, contradicting what Hamilton and Dave Ryan had told the stewards during the original hearing in Australia. The world champion and McLaren boss Whitmarsh have now apologised for the deception - but the damage has been done, with no prospect of repair. Less than a month ago, Whitmarsh insisted; "In this team, we operate a responsibility culture, not a blame culture." But there are plenty in the Malaysian paddock who believe Ryan has been made a scapegoat by McLaren and that he's been made culpable for an error of judgement - to put it mildly - that should never have happened. Ryan's suspension does not reflect well on the hierarchy within McLaren. According to Whitmarsh, it was Ryan's decision alone to go into the stewards with the story they chose to tell. Where was the collective responsibility from a team - which prides itself on its ability to win together and lose together - to establish what had happened and what should be said to the stewards? Whitmarsh may well have been experiencing his first race in overall control but Dennis was right next to him on the pit-wall. Would Ron Dennis, whose attention to detail is renowned, or his successor have expected his sporting director to take such an important decision without referring upwards? Whitmarsh claimed that Ryan had been upset by the stewards' decision at last year's Belgium Grand Prix, when race director Charlie Whiting had given Hamilton's move on Kimi Raikkonen the green light only for the stewards to take a different view. Ryan was concerned, he said, that there was no repeat in Melbourne and that the team played by the rules. Instead old wounds have been reopened in the face of authority. McLaren came through a desperate year in 2007 when they were immersed in the spy row, which saw them found guilty of possessing Ferrari technical information. As the row dragged on, so McLaren's integrity - such a touchstone of the Dennis regime - was eroded. Winning the 2008 championship appeared to restore the team's good name. Now it has been sullied once again. Hamilton's reputation has also been damaged. The public may well perceive him to be a liar, even though he has apologised for his behaviour. The fact is, he has still been seen to mislead the stewards deliberately and many people may now turn against him. The relationship between the Hamiltons (Lewis and his father Anthony) and McLaren has also been strained. Hamilton was told by the team to tell the race stewards a particular line and if those were team orders he had to obey them. All drivers need to look after number one but Hamilton's long-term future with the team may have been compromised - that will all depend on how McLaren recover from this latest scandal and how much they can improve the car this season. A key fact to this tale is that Hamilton did nothing wrong on the track in Australia. When Trulli went off at the penultimate corner in Melbourne, Hamilton had to move forward and take his place because he didn't know Trulli was going to return to the track or if the Toyota was suffering from a mechanical problem. Hamilton had to keep going behind the safety car; he was under no obligation to let Trulli re-pass him. As I understand it, if Hamilton had finished the race in third and been honest about the circumstances and the discussions on the team radio then the chances are that the stewards would have reinstated Trulli in third ahead of the Englishman and that would have been the end of the matter. That in itself would have been a great tonic for the team. He started from the back of the grid to finish fourth place in a car, which the team have openly admitted is nowhere near good enough. As it is, this story is unravelling and may continue to do so. Whether the apologies from Hamilton and McLaren draw a line under the affair remains to be seen. The sport's governing body, the FIA, could yet decide that the team have a case to answer in front of the World Motor Sport Council. BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Wasn't just Malaysia that got drowned out. Bangkok got hit by an unbelievable thunderstorm from the south. Knocked out the power as far as I could seen for close to four hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Jenson Button wins again and leads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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