Guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 Agree with the annoying Americanisms/ anachronisms. Agree that Let's Go (beginners) is good BUT the accompanying flash cards need careful scrutiny. One that was brought for a class today tripped me up for a moment....but then it clicked.....how could a smiling brown bear with what looked like a mohican possibly be anything other than 'mummy' ?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 I was recently asked a question at a job interview which went something like this. "In a corporate class, you always have two sets of students - the motivated students who use English every day in the workplace and the unmotivated students who never get the chance to use what they've learned. How do you motivate both sets of students in the same room? I paused for a while and asked the interviewer to repeat the question. Then I answered it. There is no correlation between a student being motivated just because they use the English language at work. In fact I've often found that the better students are the ones that only use their native Thai between the hours of 9 and 5. 'Motivation' is a very over-used term. If the student is not interested in studying English then they aren't interested. The teacher can do his or her best to create an exciting learning environment or 'arena' but it's the job of the student to actually want to set foot in that arena. And the teacher cannot force them. I felt that it was an honest answer but not exactly what the interviewer was looking for. Perhaps I should have said "Yeah, I get all the students together and we have loads of games and I make sure that the motivated guys help the unmotivated guys and everyone has a blast and I get them all shouting and debating and arguing".....you get the picture. The only problem is that I'm a bad liar. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you are thinking of contacting a school about a job vacancy or simply letting them know you are available for work – sending an e-mail is in my opinion the worst way to go. If you are one of the many teachers who constantly wonder why your e-mails never get answered, the reason is simple – most schools do not have a system where e-mail is dealt with efficiently and professionally. Very often computer servers are down (this is Thailand after all – where the phone lines are held together with chicken wire and gecko spit). Very often schools are rather ‘tight-fisted’ with their internet usage and only allow it to be connected for an hour or so each day – either that or only one person in the organization knows the password for the main computer. And what happens if that person is sick? Very often the Thai staff who deal with incoming e-mails are totally clueless about how to use Outlook or other database programs which can send letter drafts, information, etc. Modern technology might be advancing in leaps and bounds but the best way to contact a school is with a personal phone call or simply to walk in the front door. Now you know. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Aaaaaaah, it’s that time of year again – the silly summer camp season, when middle-class Thai mothers can offload their young brats and send them for a week of games, eating, stomachaches, and tears. You’ll notice that I didn’t mention speaking or improving their English because I think that rarely enters the equation. Schools might well dress up their week-long summer camp as a place where the children will be exposed to English 24 hours a day, but really Mommy just wants little Somchai out of her hair for a week. So why is it that schools want to use native speakers for these assignments? Is it totally necessary? There are plenty of non-native speakers who speak English well and would welcome the chance to be with the kids and earn a few baht. But no, the middle-class mothers want native-speaking teachers. And the sad thing is that they don’t even know why. ******************************************************************* I’m currently substituting a Saturday afternoon conversation class for one of my colleagues that has returned to the UK for a 3-week break. It’s a relaxed class of about 3 hours in length with just 4 class members – well, actually it’s now 3 because one lady seems to have dropped out. The whole afternoon should be a relatively painless experience for students and teacher alike, but it isn’t. Simply because the class contains two types of student that I loathe with an unbridled passion. Firstly, the guy of about 30 years old, who sits there and smiles and is on the whole very pleasant but could study English from now until Armageddon and he wouldn’t improve one iota. Why? Because his brain has shut down and refuses to absorb any information given to him by the teacher. This guy has been making the same mistakes in English for 15 years and refuses to change his ways. He’s been saying “yesterday I go” for a decade and a half, and I can tell him it’s “I went” till I’m blue in the face and it makes no difference. He’ll correct himself once and then 5 minutes later, he’ll be back to his old ways. Linguistic experts and teacher trainers refer to these mistakes as ‘fossilized errors’ but you can dress them up in whatever fancy titles you like – these mistakes arise from a plain old stubbornness and unwillingness to adapt, to think and to improve one’s language ability. I’m not sure why but it seems to be a trait of 90% of Thai males that study English. The other two students in the class are both teenage and female, and both of them are forced to come here by parents who think they have their daughter’s best interests at heart. So while their friends are window-shopping in Siam Square and drinking cappuccino in Starbucks, my two little teenagers are listening to me explain the subtle (far too subtle) difference between ‘little’ and ‘a little’. And they ain’t interested. And neither would I be if I were in their position. What’s the answer to this dilemma we face of having to teach classes of bored teenagers who just don’t want to be there? I’ve struggled to come up with a real answer. I’ve spoken on the phone to their parents in the past but this usually achieves little or nothing – the teenager is often the apple of Mommy and Daddy’s eye and the last thing they want to do is drag her arse over the coals for not participating in class. Besides, the fact that the little angel is out of their hair for a few hours may well be the only reason they send her. We could step up the entertainment value I suppose and dress up as a cartoon superhero and play games for 3 hours. But that still wouldn’t bring a smile to the faces of my two girls, in fact I’ve seen happier looking bloodhounds. I’m often asked by people just looking to rile me “Do you enjoy teaching?” My answer is “ it depends on the last lesson I taught”. It is that simple. Finish the day with a group of motivated and enthusiastic office staff who want to know about graded adjectives while taking notes diligently – it’s the best job in the world. You can’t imagine a job more satisfying as you make your weary way home on a crowded bus. But finish the day with a bunch of time-wasters whose boss has told them ‘Study English or else!” and it feels like time to get back on the phone to England and ask for your old job back. Driving a forklift at British Leyland never seemed so appealing. Of all the thousands of students that you’ve taught in Thailand – how many of them would you label as really committed and motivated? Come on, seriously – it’s not many is it. And believe me there is nothing more soul-destroying than putting your heart and soul into a lesson plan and seeing it go down like a pork cutlet at a bar Mitzvah because the class can’t conjure up a single degree of enthusiasm. And I don’t care how good a teacher you are, you can only do so much. In the dark days when I gave English lessons at my home, I taught basic conversational English to a brother and sister from 4.00pm to 5.30pm. Their father thought I was the best thing since bread was sliced and he, being a very nice man, was the only reason I did it – apart from the fact that he paid me very handsomely. His kids were quite frankly a pain in the arse. They would sit there swiveling on their chairs while wearing vacant expressions, and I counted down every painful minute on the wall-clock behind them. It ruined my whole Sunday. At 9.00 in the morning I would think to myself “oh no another 7 hours to go”. At 1.00 “oh no another 3 hours to go” – you get the picture. Life’s too short to put yourself through that kind of ordeal but I did for some 20 weeks or more. And when Daddy came to pick them up in his Volvo at 4.30, he would take me discreetly to one side and inquire about their progress. And I was always came out with the same old cobblers. “If they were my kids I would take them into the forest and shot them painlessly in the back of the head” except it came out as “Oh they’re making wonderful progress” I remember the students calling me up at 3.30 one afternoon to cancel that day’s lesson. Normally I would demand the fee from them for canceling the lesson so late, but with this pair of students, I was so relieved, so utterly dancing a jig around the room and playing air guitar relieved, that I thanked them for calling and put the phone down a happy man. I think it’s called the joys of teaching at home. It was my own fault that I put myself in the position of teaching two teenagers on a Sunday afternoon when everyone else is out enjoying themselves. I should have taken a leaf out of John Sovereign’s book. JS was an old teaching acquaintance who made a great success out of teaching at home. He would interview potential students in his living room and ask them one simple question – Do you want to study English or does your father want you to study? If they gave the wrong answer, JS would rise from his seat, walk slowly to the door, open it, and gesture in the direction of the rest of the world. Thanks but no thanks. The guy had balls. And I admired him for it. Before I put this subject of motivation to bed, there is another group of students I always have difficulty with – Thais over the age of 50. Students in this age group are often so nice and so respectful, yet rarely do I come out of a lesson feeling as if I’ve taught them anything. Learning English or re-learning English is often something that seemed like a good idea at the time but it remains a very secondary need. They don’t need it to go and look for a job. They might want it for travel I suppose, but ‘the cat is sitting next to the box’ is not going to get you very far in Belgium. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ After teaching Thais for literally thousands and thousands of hours, I’ve become rather astute at picking out the good and bad students as soon as I enter a room on the first day of class. You’ve probably developed a talent for this too. Good students sit near the front of the room. They have both shoes firmly planted on the floor and their feet still inside ‘em. Their desktop is empty save for a sensible spiral-bound notebook, the course textbook, and a selection of quality pens and pencils in a clear plastic pencil box. Poor or disinterested students sit at the back of the class (actually, sprawl rather than sit). They have nothing at all academic on the desktop, not even the course textbook. There is however a state of the art mobile telephone. Their lime green flip-flops nestle untidily under the chair while they adopt a sort of bare-footed lotus position and they wear a ‘good, here come’s the entertainment’ expression. Funny innit. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Let’s compare the expressions ‘warm-up’ and ‘lead-in’ because they are very often confused. A lead-in is where a teacher starts the class with a story, a drawing, a Q&A session or whatever, that leads subtly into the topic of the lesson – so the students minds are focused on the lesson objective even at a very early stage. A warm-up is an exercise to simply liven students up on a dull Monday morning. It can be a boisterous game, a totally inconsequential discussion or as one of the best teachers I’ve ever worked with used to do – what student can make the best animal noise? (His impression of a trumpeting elephant could reduce any class to tears of laughter) I’d always felt uncomfortable with warm-ups on the first day of a class – faced with a group of 10 people who don’t know you, don’t know each other and dread the prospect of speaking English in front of others. It’s even worse with Thais who at first have to ascertain where they stand on the ladder of social hierarchy before they can start interacting comfortably with their classmates. Teachers books are full of wonderful ideas that don’t work in a Thai classroom. I always love the one where you ask the students to walk around the room and ask each other questions in order to find out information – Who has seen a movie this week? Whose Grandma wears false teeth? And what you invariably get is 9 bewildered people huddled in a small group like refugees and one guy standing slightly to one side picking his nose. It never works! What about getting each student to stand up in front of the class and introduce themselves to a bunch of total strangers? “Hello my name is Lek and I am graduate from Bangkok University. I have one older brother and one younger brother and my father is a merchant – he has a business about wood. And my mother stay at home” If you want to sit through that 10 times, you’re a better man than I am. It doesn’t work anyway. It’s taken me years to perfect a warm-up that works. I go into the class and I tell them a 5-minute story about my life with illustrations on the whiteboard. The story of how my mother was poor and couldn’t take care of me, so she pushed me down the river in a small boat before a pack of wolves found me, etc, etc. I deliver the story slowly and deliberately and draw appalling pictures and explain vocab as I go along. After 5 minutes they realize it’s a total lie but they’re roaring with laughter anyway. The ice is broken. They haven’t spoken a word of English – it doesn’t matter. They don’t know my real name – it doesn’t matter. They don’t know where I’m from – it matters not one jot. They’re laughing, they’re relaxed, they’re in a good mood – they are ready to get down to business. That’s a warm-up! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This next section is sure to cause controversy and debate but I happen to think that I was very wrong on the following occasion. A couple of years ago, I was academic director of a well-known language school in Bangkok that underwent a complete restructure and change of management. The school had not been particularly successful up to that point but it was a school built on very sound principles. Students were rigorously level-tested and placed at exactly the right level for their ability. If we didn’t have a level for you to study in, we didn’t take your money – as simple as that. As regards teachers – we had full-time staff and part-time staff. For most of the year, everyone was kept happy with a schedule that suited their needs but at those times of the year when lessons were thin on the ground (Xmas and Songkran) the full-timers got the lion’s share and the part-timers went hungry. I was proud to be in charge of a school that adopted these principles because I considered them to be totally appropriate. When the new manager came in, he abandoned those principles. Students could study in any level that was ‘reasonably’ near their actual ability, and you sent your BEST teachers into a classroom to teach. And the best teachers were the ones who got the MOST student requests. Whether the teacher was part-time or full-time didn’t matter at all. I was outraged. A situation quickly developed where the ‘superstar’ part-time teachers got lessons whenever they wanted and the full-time teachers had schedules with huge gaps in them. Meanwhile, EVERY teacher complained that they were teaching too many classes of mixed ability. I found myself arguing with the manager every single day and it wasn’t long before I decided to quit. In the passage of time I’ve realized that I was wrong. The manager had been brought in to turn things around and make the school profitable. And that meant abandoning principles. Business is business. Private language schools are not charities – they are there to make money. You don’t make money by turning students away because you don’t have a suitable class and you don’t make money by sending average teachers into classrooms. I had two choices – to toe the company line or to get the f*** out but I chose to stay on and moan and bitch and try to keep some sort of quality and standard. But quality and standard had never made this school any money. I learned a very important lesson - the welfare of the students sometimes has to come a very poor second. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 >They may be annoying to you Phil, but many Asians these days prefer American English. I hate to point out such an obvious fact but there is no such animal as American English. Regardless of what microsoft would have you believe. Rather like saying this Champange didnt come from France. If ii did not come from the Champange region of France it isnt Champange but white fizzy wine instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Well, you may not regard it as "official", but American English is spoken all over the good ole USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Mr Lucky American English may be spoken all over the usa (deliberate lower case); it is not however understood by as many people in other parts of the world as British English. Many more people say bonnet and bumper than hood and fender. Your empire extended to let me see oh yes the Philipines! There was time when half the globe was painted pink, our lasting legacy is International English. The americans have brought us baseball cap and McDonalds......hmm!!!! My two most annoying american English hates are. 1) "Gotten" (the Brits stopped using this as soon as the Mayflower left port.) 2) "off of" As in the ship was off of the coast of Maine. This really pisses me off. As for Thais preferring american English, they can't tell if you come from Wisconsin or Vladivostock, so how can they express a preference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 quote: Originally posted by coquetislander: Mr Lucky American English may be spoken all over the usa (deliberate lower case); it is not however understood by as many people in other parts of the world as British English. Many more people say bonnet and bumper than hood and fender. Your empire extended to let me see oh yes the Philipines! There was time when half the globe was painted pink, our lasting legacy is International English. The americans have brought us baseball cap and McDonalds......hmm!!!! My two most annoying american English hates are. 1) "Gotten" (the Brits stopped using this as soon as the Mayflower left port.) 2) "off of" As in the ship was off of the coast of Maine. This really pisses me off. As for Thais preferring american English, they can't tell if you come from Wisconsin or Vladivostock, so how can they express a preference? Hey man, what's your problem? Please explain the use of the "deliberate lower case" when referring to the USA. What's that all about? FYI, I never said that Thais prefer American English, just that the vernacular does exist, whether you like it or not. BTW, Thai's may not know what they prefer but I bet they have whole lot easier time understanding an American accent than a British one. You sound pretty angry, pompous, and snooty, as well. Sorry to have GOTTEN you so pissed OFF OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Bangkok Phil: I enjoy your postings very much! Thank you. It seems, you are into a keen competition with stickman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotover Posted October 16, 2001 Report Share Posted October 16, 2001 quote: Originally posted by coquetislander: Mr Lucky American English may be spoken all over the usa (deliberate lower case); it is not however understood by as many people in other parts of the world as British English. Many more people say bonnet and bumper than hood and fender. I know my British and Australian (deliberate upper case) relatives use the term "bonnet and bumper", I don't know about Canadians. However, the USA has a considerably larger population than these countries. Which other English speaking countries use "bonnet and bumper"? Shotover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2001 Report Share Posted October 16, 2001 What pisses me off is when I must wait around for an hour and a half for a student that wants a 2 or a 3 hour lesson, then she answers her phone every 2 minutes. I don't bother saying anything as "she did infact turn up". If I did say something, then she might not turn up at all. grung tep.. city of angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Kurtz Posted October 16, 2001 Report Share Posted October 16, 2001 Another informative `teachers monthly`. Forklift driving for Britsh Leyland?love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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