Coss Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's been rising since the end of the last ice age, circa 10,000 yrs ago, still is. Those ancient humans must have use a lot of petrol to bring about the end of the ice age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's been rising since the end of the last ice age, circa 10,000 yrs ago, still is. Those ancient humans must have use a lot of petrol to bring about the end of the ice age. Glad you agree the skeptics that say there is no global warming are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 The argument I have is not whether or not the planet is warming or cooling, getting more changeable or less. The argument I have is whether or not Al Gore, all the Politicians and Marketing Geniuses are correct in promulgating that man is solely and culpably responsible for any significant amount of warming or cooling, or more change or less. My understanding of all the arguments, pro and con, is that we're basing a lot of what is said on weather observations and other observations that only cover a small amount of time. Ergo we are measuring small swings in what may or may not be a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Also on CO2 level records that go back 800,000 years (analyzing ice cores)! Is 800,000 years a small amount of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 You are assuming that CO2 levels drive warming, there are good arguments to say warming drives CO2 levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 You are assuming that CO2 levels drive warming, there are good arguments to say warming drives CO2 levels. Give a citation! Is the argument as good as #17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Don't need no citation, logic should do it. All the permafrost in the northern climes, if or as, it melts, releases huge amounts of CO2. Now is it the CO2 being released that's driving more Melting? Or is to the Melting that's driving the CO2 release? Map of Russia permafrost http://www.emergingm...rost_russia.jpg Map of China permafrost, just a little one, but you can see the extent http://nsidc.org/fgd...ssification.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also on CO2 level records that go back 800,000 years (analyzing ice cores)! Is 800,000 years a small amount of time? The more I think about the 800,000 years, you are quite right, what they show is significant variation of levels, with admittedly, some higher levels recently. But "The argument I have is not whether or not the planet is warming or cooling, getting more changeable or less. The argument I have is whether or not Al Gore, all the Politicians and Marketing Geniuses are correct in promulgating that man is solely and culpably responsible for any significant amount of warming or cooling, or more change or less." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Don't need no citation, logic should do it. All the permafrost in the northern climes, if or as, it melts, releases huge amounts of CO2. Now is it the CO2 being released that's driving more Melting? Or is to the Melting that's driving the CO2 release? Map of Russia permafrost http://www.emergingm...rost_russia.jpg Map of China permafrost, just a little one, but you can see the extent http://nsidc.org/fgd...ssification.gif ... and that is the problem! You completely ignore the studies that correlate CO2 increases with the use of fossil fuels. You don't need citations to back your belief. You just know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Anyone factor in the reduction in the jungles and forests that "eat" CO2??? Plant life needs CO2 to survive and people/animals need the plants to eat the CO2 and give us O2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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