jon46 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The news also reported that the pilot had 6,000 hrs of flying on the Airbus 320 while the co-pilot started the job in 2013 and had only 630 hrs of flying time. It is a good thing that the voice recorder was recovered while the data recorder has yet to be located. The information that one of the pilots was locked out is very troubling. While it is very early to know all the facts, I now believe evidence strongly points to the pilot behind the control caused the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Germanwings plane crash: Co-pilot 'wanted to destroy plane' http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32063587 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Didn't realise,........ that almost anyone can become a pilot, no serious formal education as such, all you need is 250,000 dollars or so in the bank to pay for flying lessons and go from there. Too many times, pilots have deliberately killed themselves and their passengers, what can be done i'm not sure, but is a wake up call that different procedures need to be put in place to combat this. No pilot should ever be alone in the cockpit, even if the pilots have to urinate into a bucket ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Didn't realise,........ that almost anyone can become a pilot, no serious formal education as such, all you need is 250,000 dollars or so in the bank to pay for flying lessons and go from there. To become a candidate at Lufthansa flying school , where this guy learned flying , you have to pass numerous tests before you even start the courses . This includes multiple thorough screenings of the person´s mental status . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 " This includes multiple thorough screenings of the person´s mental status ." Sadly didn't work in this particular case .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Is this not as simple as a retrofit, some sort of modification or extension to rear of cockpits of commercial planes to incorporate a small toilet. If necessary increase fares by a dollar or two per passenger to pay. I'm sure the passengers on board would have glady paid, as would anyone had they known that this scenario could happen and has .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The days of former military pilots flying for the airlines are almost over. Most seem to start training quite young now and copilots in their 20's isn't unusual. I flew once on a Fokker 28 that had a pilot and copilot both in their 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Something I came across ........ An Airbus training video shows that the A320 cockpit has safeguards in case one pilot inside becomes incapacitated while the other is outside, or if both pilots inside are unconscious. Normally, someone trying to get into the cockpit requests access and a camera feed or peephole lets the pilot decide whether to accept or specifically deny access. If there is no response, a member of the flight crew can tap in an emergency code again requesting access. If there is still no response, the door opens automatically. If, however, the person in the cockpit denies access after the emergency request, the door remains locked for five minutes, according to the Airbus video. Information for terrorists but of course they already know ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Looks like Europe is behind the USA on some plane safety... http://news.yahoo.com/german-police-search-house-pilot-flew-a320-mountain-183254650--sector.html The scenario stunned the aviation world. Within hours of the prosecutors' announcement, several airlines responded by immediately changing their rules to require a second crew member to be in the cockpit at all times. That is already compulsory in the United States but not in Europe. Canada said it would now require it of all its airlines. EasyJet, Norwegian Air Shuttle and Air Berlin were among other carriers that swiftly announced such policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Many people are now permanently spreading clever thoughts all over the place , they should have come forward with their ideas a week earlier . In all aviation history there might have been about 8 cases of pilots killing passengers by flying the plane into ground , an almost zero likelihood . Giving up flying would make it finally very safe . So far only European LCC´s introduced the new rule with minimum 2 people in the cockpit to get away from an image problem , Germanwings being an LCC . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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