unit731 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 "With troops loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gaining on opposition forces, the U.N. Security Council Thursday evening authorized "all necessary measures," including a no-fly zone, to protect Libyan civilians." LINK Warm up the drones. Fuel up those Cruise Missles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Probably too late. Obama, our "spectator-in-chief", has been busy sorting out his March Madness brackets and playing golf since saying Gadaffy "must go". Kind of embarassing to have to follow the French into a conflict. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Seriously... But I for one would love for this to be a joint French-Italian mission. They have the ability and they have the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 The French and the Italians? What an interesting combination ... maybe the Brits will join in and sink their navies. When the rebels were winning, the UN wanted to do nothing. Now they do. I suppose it's what they call neutrality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 p.s. Those countries that abstained seem to be the ones that get their oil from Libya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Obama's indecision on Libya has pushed Clinton over the edge By Joshua Hersh Thursday, March 17, 2011 Fed up with a president “who can’t make his mind up†as Libyan rebels are on the brink of defeat, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is looking to the exits. At the tail end of her mission to bolster the Libyan opposition, which has suffered days of losses to Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s forces, Clinton announced that she’s done with Obama after 2012 — even if he wins again. “Obviously, she’s not happy with dealing with a president who can’t decide if today is Tuesday or Wednesday, who can’t make his mind up,†a Clinton insider told The Daily. “She’s exhausted, tired.†He went on, “If you take a look at what’s on her plate as compared with what’s on the plates of previous Secretary of States — there’s more going on now at this particular moment, and it’s like playing sports with a bunch of amateurs. And she doesn’t have any power. She’s trying to do what she can to keep things from imploding.†Clinton is said to be especially peeved with the president’s waffling over how to encourage the kinds of Arab uprisings that have recently toppled regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and in particular his refusal to back a no-fly zone over Libya. In the past week, former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton’s former top adviser Anne- Marie Slaughter lashed out at Obama for the same reason. The tension has even spilled over into her dealings with European diplomats, with whom she met early this week. When French president Nicolas Sarkozy urged her to press the White House to take more aggressive action in Libya, Clinton repeatedly replied only, “There are difficulties,†according to Foreign Policy magazine. “Frankly we are just completely puzzled,†one of the diplomats told Foreign Policy magazine. “We are wondering if this is a priority for the United States.†Or as the insider described Obama’s foreign policy shop: “It’s amateur night.†[color:red]Clinton revealed her desire to leave yesterday in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, responding four times to his questions about whether she would accept a post during a potential second Obama administration with a single word: “No.â€[/color] Philippe Reines, an adviser and spokesman for Clinton, downplayed thesignificance of the interview, saying, “He asked, she answered. Really that simple. [it] wasn’t a declaration.†But her blunt string of four “no’s†followed a period of intense frustration for the secretary, according to the insider, who told The Daily that Clinton has grown weary of fighting an uphill battle in the administration. Defense Secretary Robert Gates came out against a no-fly zone almost two weeks ago, while Clinton grew closer to the Libyan opposition. Last week, excommunicated members of Libya’s embassy to the United States set up shop in an office inside the State Department. Obama himself made light of her strong feelings for supporting the opposition in a speech last week at the Gridiron Club Dinner, an annual gathering that traditionally features a stand-up comedy act by the president. "I’ve dispatched Hillary to the Middle East to talk about how these countries can transition to new leaders — though, I’ve got to be honest, she’s gotten a little passionate about the subject,†Obama said to laughter from the audience. “These past few weeks it’s been tough falling asleep with Hillary out there on Pennsylvania Avenue shouting, throwing rocks at the window.†And to some, the firing last week of State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley over disparaging remarks he made about the Pentagon detention policies had the appearance of a power move by the Defense Department more than anything else. While the stakes in Libya could not be higher, the insider said that something far more domestic was on Clinton’s mind after she leaves the State Department: “She wants to be a grandmother more than anything." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 p.s. Those countries that abstained seem to be the ones that get their oil from Libya. China, Russia, Brazil, India and Germany abstained. Germany buys 19% of Libyan oil, China 5%. Russia, Brazil and India none. http://www.libyaonline.com/business/pages.php?cid=311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 "China, Russia, Brazil, India and Germany abstained." Wonder what the thinking behind those votes. Chechnya - Tibet - Kashmir? Or something completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Russia and China basically oppose any interference in other sovereign countries. India cites humanitarian reasons... http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/World/20110318/1711707.html Brazil and Germany think military action will make things worse for the Libyan people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I saw those statements from Russia and China ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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