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Hip-hop duo erected bar in forest on Åland island to protest Russia’s crackdown on homosexuality HELSINKI, Finland - Police in Finland have received a complaint after two pranksters erected a makeshift gay bar based on the Blue Oyster from the Police Academy films to protest against Russia’s anti-gay laws. The bar, a wooden structure hung with fairy lights and decorated with blue lettering, was built last weekend on a plot of land belonging to the Russian presidency on the remote Åland archipelago, a Swedish-speaking region of Finland. Pictures posted by the pranksters show people outside the bar, some clad in leather and wearing yellow builders’ helmets, with one couple kissing. “This is pure hooliganism,†the Russian consul to Åland, Mikhail Zubov, told the Finnish news agency STT. The bar, outside the village of Saltvik, was erected by the Swedish comedy hip-hop duo Far & Son, who told local media they were protesting against Russia’s crackdown on gay rights, including a law forbidding the “promotion†of homosexuality. “We expected a bit more of a vigorous response from the Russians and that they would immediately send the Scud missiles into the gay bar, but it seems they can’t keep up with Far & Son,†the comedians told the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet. “They are simply cowards.†Approximately 28,000 people live on the Åland islands, a popular summer resort for Finns and Swedes. The archipelago of 6,000 islands between Finland and Sweden is an autonomous region of Finland with its own parliament and has been demilitarized since 1921 because of its strategic location in the Baltic. Before that it was part of the Russian empire as a region of the semi-autonomous Grand Duchy of Finland, and there is still some residual local unease about Russia. Zubov, who was appointed consul to the islands in July, told the local press in August that Moscow had not trained troops to mount an invasion. An editorial in Thursday’s Ålandstidningen said it supported the hip-hop duo’s satirical protest, saying that whereas the Soviet Union had attacked the west for its decadence, commercialism and pop music, Vladimir Putin’s Russia now attacked it for gay rights and preaching radical feminism. It added that it was dangerous to underestimate the Russian president, who had a measure of global popularity that meant it was important to stand up for tolerance. The Blue Oyster replica was built on land that became Russian property in 1947 under postwar peace treaties requiring all German-owned items in the area to be given to the Soviet Union. The uninhabited 17,800 sq meter plot once belonged to a German-Finnish couple, and was revealed to be owned by the Russian presidency last autumn. Since the invasion of Ukraine, the Baltic region has been jittery as a result of Russian military exercises and operations in the area, culminating in the Swedish hunt for a suspected Russian submarine in the Stockholm archipelago in October 2014. Putin has also visited shipwrecks in the Baltic in a submersible on a couple of occasions. Åland police confirmed they had received a complaint about the incident on Sunday, and said the area belonged to the Russian state. “The perpetrators forced their way into the area and built something, leaving their rubbish behind,†they said. “This incident has been classed as trespassing, as well as some sanitation violations. Police have been in contact with the Russian consul and documented the crime scene.†The crime could be punishable by up to three months in prison but Far & Son told Aftonbladet they were not afraid. “I think someone will build this again with cement next year. Then it will remain there forever. “The Blue Oyster will be the only thing you can see from the moon, apart from the Great Wall of China. They will never take us alive.†http://www.eturbonews.com/63907/russia-furious-about-gay-bar-putins-plot-finland

The Supreme Court today reversed the ruling of the Appeals Court's two-year suspended jail term handed down on an alleged teenaged road-rage killer after finding his offences were serious that should not deserve prison suspension on probation. The alleged road-rage killer Kanpitak Patchimsawas, then 25 years old, is the son of a former Thai beauty queen and a leading businessman and nephew of a powerful top police general. He faced trial for murder, attempted murder and assault after he ploughed his Mercedes-Benz into a crowded Thong Lor bus stop on July 4, 2007 killing one woman and injuring several others. Kanpitak was sentenced by the Appeals Court to serve three years in prison but commuted to two years and one month after considering his offences were committed at the time he could not control himself due to mental sickness. Besides, the Appeals Court said, the convicted had paid compensation of up to over a million baht to the family of the killed woman and the three injured, and they agreed not to proceed with civil suits against him, it then decided the prison sentence be suspended for two years instead after considering the nature of the case. The Appeals Court then required him to report his behaviour to the behaviour control officials every three months on a two -year probation. The verdict was appealed to the high court by the families of the killed and injured victims. But in today’s hearing of the trial read at the presence of the convict, now 33 years old, and the killed victim’s family, at the Phra Khanong district court, the Supreme Court disagreed with the ruling of the Appeals Court which delivered Kanpitak on a two-year suspended sentence and on a probation instead. The high court said that although it agreed with the medical report that the convict was mentally sick and had decision making problem, but medical report showed that before committing the serious offences, he still was addicted to drugs when he first took drugs since he was 17 years old. Besides, the court reasoned that as his father still allowed him to drive, therefore, the crimes he committed were serious. The Supreme Court then overruled the Appeals Court’s ruling and handed down him to serve the two year sentence immediately with no suspended jail sentence. The court also retained his one month in prison for body assault ruled earlier by the lower court as there was no appeal by the victim’ s families. In total, Kanpitak was given two years and one month in prison for the offences. Earlier in 2009 the Phra Khanong District Court sentenced him to jail but commuted the sentence on mental health reason. He was freed on a 1-million bail. He allegedly ploughed his Mercedes-Benz into a crowded Thong Lor bus stop on July 4 last year, killing one woman and injuring several others. The incident happened shortly after a bus and Kanpitak’s car were engaged in a minor collision on Sukhumvit Road. Witnesses say Kanpitak hit the bus driver in the face with a stone before driving his car into the bus stop. The defendant’s father, Kan-anek, says his son was mentally ill. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mercedes-maniac-now-serves-jail-sentence-after-eight-years-of-court-trials --------------------------- Actually, given the upbringing of a person who probably never had to pass an exam in in his life, how was probably handed luxury on a platter by fawning servants, and whose belief in his personal superiority was so strong as to give him a god complex, mental illness might not be a bad diagnosis.

By Coconuts Bangkok Heavy rains lashed Pattaya yesterday and left about 400 Thai and foreign tourists stranded on Koh Lan and flooded parts of the city. The heavy rains, which lasted for about three hours, caused the in-bound and out-bound lanes of the Sukhumvit highway at the entrance of a road to South Pattaya to flood with about two feet of water for about 100 metres, reported Thai PBS. The weather was a result of a tropical storm Vamco and caused two-meter-high waves and high winds in the Gulf of Thailand. The 380 tourists stranded on Koh Lan were eventually rescued when four boats were sent to collect them, reported The Nation. The Pattaya-Na Klua, the Walking Street in South Pattaya and Panya housing estate were also heavily flooded. Strong winds/waves damaged several anchorages at the Southern Pattaya Pier, worth millions of baht.

Ahh fuc* it - I'll no more mention reds, to keep you happy. I'm not pro or anti anyone in Thailand except Takky and he's not even there, I dislike him with a vengeance and the whore he rode in on. As far as the rest go, red/yellow/black/white/green and inebriated in the gutter, they are all worthy of derision and ridicule. I've met many that are normal, educated and sensible, I'm playing part time host to some here in NZ now. But the ones that make the news in Thailand are the funniest entertainment I've ever seen. You may have noticed me taking the piss out of some Thais who are part of the current establishment. I think these are the opposite of the colour I may no longer mention, in case I am seen to be getting an edge in there. Are the current establishment out of bounds for me to attempt to ridicule? I now you are pro red, good on you, and in a liberated LOS, I'd be too. But as I say, I'm beige and my only real dislike is the Takky himself. Sorry to have offended you. Quite.

Thai police to send second team to KL to gather info on Bangkok blast suspects ? BANGKOK: Thai police will send another team to Kuala Lumpur to gather more information on the three people detained by Malaysian police over links to a group of suspects responsible for the bomb attacks in central Bangkok on Aug 17. “On the second trip tomorrow, we will send our officials who are familiar with Malaysian protocol. The team may be able to interrogate the three persons,†said Thai police deputy chief Police General Chaktip Chaijinda at a press conference on his return to Bangkok Wednesday. “I am not sure if we are able to talk with them (the three people) ... in principle, they allow us to interrogate the suspects but we have to see,†he said, adding that he had obtained useful information during his trip and Malaysian police had been very cooperative. Chaktip said he and his team had met with Special Branch chief Datuk Seri Mohamad Fuzi Harun as Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar was abroad. On Monday, Khalid had announced the arrest of two Malaysians and a Pakistani in connection with the bomb attacks in Bangkok. Chaktip said apart from discussions on the three individuals, illegal human trafficking routes and other issues were also discussed. ---- So how did he f**k up the first trip?

You've got to understand, I'm not blaming the reds, or the yellows, or anyone else, I am noting what some twat in the administration noted and was bleating about, and that was derisable as well. If I censor myself and never talk about anything that has reds associated with it, I may as well give up. And any way, I still wanna know where the two cows Takky promised my 2nd wife's family are.

BANGKOK, 16 September 2015 (NNT)- The Royal Thai Police Chief has claimed he has never said the Ratchaprasong blast was triggered by Thailand’s deportation of Uighurs to China. http://www.thaivisa.com/ really? Police chief General Somyot Poompanmoung says a people-trafficking network that "moved Uighurs from one place to another" perpetrated the August 17 terrorist attack in Bangkok that killed 20 people and injured 130, many of them Chinese tourists. Somyot explained that the traffickers were angered because Thai authorities had dismantled their network and had sought "revenge" for the forced repatriation of 109 Uighurs to China in July. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/ and The attacks may have been reprisal, Thai national police chief Somyot Pumpunmuang said. “When they were blocked from using the country as a pathway, they turned to take action against us with anger,†he said Tuesday. “I do not think it is right.†http://www.theglobeandmail.com/

When I see: "reinforce traditional, stereotypical views of sexuality (particularly women’s sexuality)" "a reality where the human (male) user is expected to turn on his woman robot companion for his own, lone, pleasure" I see feminazi. Surely the argument goes: " What is wrong with men having sex with robots - they are not women - no harm no foul " "But that would encourage men to view women as nothing more than robot objects for men's gratification, this means women are objectified and that is bad" "But men can tell the difference between women and robots, they are not easily fooled" "Technology will make the differences undecipherable" "What about Asimov's first law of robotics?" "What do you mean?" "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm" "So?" "When a man is about to have sex with someone, whom he is not sure is real or not, he insults her/it terribly. If it is a woman she will react by slapping him, if a robot, it will not, ergo, safe to proceed, no harm no foul"

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I'm not casting aspersions on the motives of people who flee their country. These two photos demonstrate to me why people are fleeing Syria. But I do posit the question, "Will the people turn their new homelands into a likeness of their home countries?" Refugees-in-fields-near-Tovarnik-Croatia Debris-and-damaged-buildings-in-Aleppo

Doesn't seem likely, from a logical point of view. But your opinion does feed directly from the trough of information being fed to the media by the authorities. For argument's sake: If this was a revenge attack - surely it would harm the people on which the revenge was to be visited. These people would be: a/. The Officers and Agents who did the original sending of the Uighurs to China. b/.Their superiors, family, business interests etc. The revenge would target those on whom the revenge was intended. Not some other people in another part of the country. To say "Ahh but the damage to the Thai nation is the revenge" is risible, this act of bombing will only serve to bring down the might of the authorities, on any and all who may be of the terrorist persuasion. The net thus cast, will catch everyone with the remotest links to terrorism. And indeed it has. There is sufficient doubt, that the suspects caught thus far, whilst associated with bomb making materials and such, may not have done the actual deed, it could have easily been someone else, also a bomber. Disclaimer: The above assumes that the Thai Police are competent to conduct a logical investigation, based on fact. Also a note must be made that like 'village justice' the Police in Thailand can often 'get' the right perpetrator, in the absence of adequate evidence.

I see there's a lawyer with a red shirt background, being reported as going to defend, the arrested Turk/nonTurk.

Not one of his best, but it held my attention all the way through. I reckon worth watching once

Pol Gen Somyot admits bombs link Uighur deportation and human trafficking gang National police chief Pol Gen Somyot Poompanmoung admitted on Tuesday that the twin bombings at the Erawan Shrine and Sathorn pier on August 17-18 were linked to Thailand’s decision to send 109 Uighur illegal migrants back to China and the crackdown on human trafficking gang in Thailand. He said that the twin bomb attacks, especially at the Erawan Shrine which killed 20 foreign tourists and Thais and injured over 120 others, were a revenge against the deportation of the Uighurs and the smashing of the human trafficking racket. However, he admitted that there were no information or evidences to link the attack of a Thai consulate in Turkey with the network responsible for the two bombings in Bangkok. He disclosed that one of his deputies, Pol Gen Chakthip Chaichinda, would lead a police team to Malaysia to get information from the Malaysian police who are now holding two Malaysians and a Pakistani under suspicion of involvement with the Bangkok’s bombers and their supporters. But he said that it wasn’t sure whether the three suspects could be extradited into Thailand for interrogation. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pol-gen-somyot-admits-bombs-link-uighur-deportation-and-human-trafficking-gang ----------------------- It can't just be the translation, is this guy suggesting that the bombing in Bangkok is retaliation for the deporting or the Uighurs and thereto the responsibility of said Uighurs and or their supporters? Whilst at the same time suggesting that the bombing in Bangkok is retaliation for the (purported) shutting down of the People Trafficking in the south of Thailand, run by people unknown, but widely believed to be criminal gangs, with at the very least, culpable knowledge, by personnel in the Thai Military? Is he covering all bases? Next, will the bombing be caused by Global Warming? This is starting to look like the Koh Tao investigation, but bigger. Excellent! large and long supply of laughs coming this way

And now... ------- Turkish Suspect Denies Involvement in Erawan Bomb Attack Soldiers escort Adem Karadag, aka Mohammed Bilaturk, to Bangkok Metropolitan Police headquarters on 4 Sept. BANGKOK — The first man arrested on suspicion of involvement in last month’s bombing of the Erawan Shrine insists he had nothing to do with the attack and only arrived in Thailand days before he was taken into custody in a raid. Turkish national Adem Karadag, also known as Mohammed Bilaturk, said through his lawyer that upon arriving in Thailand on 24 Aug., the broker paid to smuggle him from Turkey ordered him to remain inside an apartment building where security forces discovered him among fake Turkish passports and bomb-making materials on 29 Aug. “He insisted that he had nothing to do with the materials found at Poon Anan Apartment,†his lawyer Chuchart Kanpai said. “The news that the materials at the room belonged to him may have been because of miscommunication.†Authorities also learned today from the Bangladeshi Embassy in Bangkok that the man suspected of orchestrating the bombing which killed 20 people was last known to have boarded a flight to Istanbul, Turkey, and not China as reported earlier. Abu Dustar Abdulrahman, a 27-year-old Chinese national also known as “Izaan,†left Bangkok for Bangladesh one day before the blast. From there, he flew to Istanbul on 30 Aug., one day after investigators arrested Karadag in Bangkok, police officials said today. Bangladeshi police officials had previously claimed he had traveled to Beijing, China. Chuchart said Karadag traveled from Turkey to Thailand via Laos and Vietnam, having paid a broker called Abdullah Abdullahman for his passage. Abdullahman was named in the investigation's 10th court-approved arrest warrant on 7 Sept. Composite image released for suspect Abdullah Abdullahman by Royal Thai Police. Karadag's lawyer said today his client paid Abdullahman to smuggle him into Thailand. Asked about Karadag’s claim of innocence, Police Lt. Gen. Prawuth Thawornsiri today said he was not surprised, because Karadag had denied the charges since his arrest. It was his capture that prompted Thai police to pay themselves a 3 million baht reward offered in the case, after identifying Karadag as a member of a network behind the attack. Chuchart described Karadag as a patsy for whom Thailand was nothing more than a transit point for further travel. “He wanted to become a chaffeur in Malaysia,†Chuchart said. After briefly being transferred to civilian police, Karadag is back in military custody at the 11th Army District in Bangkok, which has been converted into a “special prison†for bomb suspects. He is being held there along with Yusufu Mieraili, a Chinese national who was the second arrest to be made on 1 Sept. http://www.khaosoden...wsid=1442232683

Rape, murder and a deepening mystery on a tiny tropical island Hannah Witheridge and David Miller, British tourists killed in Thailand. It was exactly a year ago that the bodies were discovered on the beach: nearly naked, their blood mixing with the morning surf. Hannah Witheridge was a beautiful blonde from eastern England. David Miller was her handsome friend from the Channel Islands. They were in their early 20s and vacationing together on the tiny tropical island of Koh Tao, a backpacker's paradise off the coast of Thailand. On September 14, 2014, they attended an all-night party on Koh Tao's idyllic Sairee Beach, a half-mile swathe of emerald water and white sands. Sometime deep into the night, the two friends wandered off, perhaps headed back to their bungalow resort nearby. That's when the killers pounced. By the time dawn broke over Koh Tao, the beach had been transformed into a bloodbath. Witheridge was found with her face smashed in, her skirt wrenched up and her body showing signs of rape. Miller was found four metres away: face up, with a blow to the head and water in his lungs. A rusty hoe, its blade broken and caked in gore, lay nearby. The killings roiled Koh Tao, an eight-square-mile island buoyed by tourism. Authorities scoured its jungles for suspects as islanders blocked the ferry to prevent the murderers' escape. Coming just four months after a coup had installed a military junta in power, the case quickly became a litmus test of the new government's commitment to fighting crime. One year later, those test results are far from convincing. Two workers from Myanmar, also known as Burma, are currently on trial for the tourists' grisly murders, but the case is quickly unravelling in court. On Friday, a Thai forensic expert said that DNA evidence from the supposed murder weapon does not match the men accused of the crime. The testimony is just the latest in a long series of shocking setbacks that threaten to sink not only the case, but also the Thai criminal justice system. From the beginning, there were signs that the investigation was in trouble. Thai police admitted to moving Miller's body, ostensibly to prevent it from washing away. Authorities announced that Witheridge was raped, then said she wasn't, before finally saying she was raped twice. Cops initially named a British friend of hers as a person of interest, then began taking DNA samples from hundreds of suspects. The investigation descended into the absurd when the Thai Prime Minister, Prayuth Chan-ocha, commented on the murders by saying that only ugly women were safe wearing bikinis in Thailand. Finally, police appeared to have found their footing when they arrested two Myanmar migrants who, cops claimed, had confessed to the crime. Yet, that case has also been disintegrating from the get-go, like a courthouse made of sand. Shortly after arresting the two 22-year-old men, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, Thai officials had the suspects perform a bizarre public re-enactment of the crime. As police linked arms to keep onlookers off the beach, a confused looking Lin and Htun fumbled to reenact their alleged crime. Wearing helmets, bullet proof vests and handcuffs, and wielding a dust bin instead of a hoe, they men demonstrated how they had supposedly killed the two tourists. Bystanders, including a TV reporter, were roped in to play the parts of the victims. But their confession was, itself, confused. The men said they didn't use a condom, even though cops insisted they had. Then, just a few days later, a lawyer for the two men insisted that the confession was false: cops had beaten it out of them. A message of support for the families of British tourists David Miller and Hannah Witheridge on Koh Tao island. Photo: REUTERS "They told me that they were on the beach that night drinking and singing songs," said attorney Aung Myo Thant, a Myanmar embassy official, the Guardian reported. "They said they didn't do it, that the Thai police beat them until they confessed to something they didn't do. "They're pleading with the Burmese government to look into the case and find out the truth," he added after speaking to the two men. "They were a really pitiful sight. Their bodies had all sorts of bruises." Doubts about the case against the migrants - and the underlying mystery of who killed the tourists - have only deepened since the trial began in early July. First, Thai police admitted in court that they never bothered to check CCTV footage of a boat leaving from a nearby pier just an hour after the murder. "We have the footage, but we never checked it," Police Colonel Cherdpong Chiewpreecha admitted in court, drawing gasps from those in attendance, according to Sky News. He said he simply didn't believe the killer would have taken the boat. Cherdpong also said that his department had not investigated rumours of a fight between Witheridge and the son of a powerful Koh Tao politician the night of the murder. Nor did his department fully test the alleged murder weapon. Instead, the colonel told the court that the hoe was examined under a magnifying glass but investigators decided they were no viable fingerprints or DNA to collect, according to Sky News. Murder-accused Zaw Lin (back left) and Win Zaw Htun (back centre) arrive at court. Photo: GETTY IMAGES Blood spatters were not tested, Cherdpong admitted. Finally, he said he didn't think it was relevant that CCTV footage showed men fleeing from the area in different clothing than the Myanmar workers wearing that night. Last month, the translators used to obtain the now retracted confession admitted in court that they are actually roti (pancake) vendors who barely understand Thai and speak little Burmese, according to the Myanmar Times. "The second roti seller has been on the stand today and it's become very clear that he does not have much of grasp of Thai at all so we don't understand how he could have translated for police," Andy Hall, a British migrant rights advocate who is assisting the defense, told the newspaper. "As well there have been many police procedural issues exposed this week, including many inconsistencies in the timing of events around the arrest of the accused." Then came Friday's bombshell about the DNA on the bloody hoe. Police had previously given conflicting statements about the DNA evidence, initially saying that it was lost or "used up" before later insisting that it had been properly saved, according to Reuters. The two accused, wearing helmets, bulletproof vests and handcuffs, are made to re-enact the crime, with locals playing the victims. Photo: REUTERS Last month, a court on Koh Samui - 40 miles from Koh Tao - ordered that the remaining forensic evidence in the case be sent for reexamination. On Friday, Pornthip Rojanasunand, the head of Thailand's forensics institute, testified that DNA found on the hoe does not match that of the two accused Burmese men, according to the Telegraph. With no DNA evidence and a contested confession, the case appears to be collapsing. The trial is expected to conclude later this month. Given the inconsistencies in the investigation, however, doubt is likely to remain no matter the verdict. http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/72094299/rape-murder-and-a-deepening-mystery-on-a-tiny-tropical-island

Jupiter Ascending 2015 - IMDB says "A young woman discovers her destiny as an heiress of intergalactic nobility and must fight to protect the inhabitants of Earth from an ancient and destructive industry." I say - Rubbish. Mila Kunis has lost the cuteness of youth. Channing Tatum's eyes are too close together. Mila Kunis' character accepts the change, from cleaning toilets, to Queen of the Universe with no perceptible surprise. Channing Tatum has 'Hover Boots' (think Marty McFly's hovering skateboard from Back to the Future'), If you were 12 this could be enjoyable.

The rise of the Krays 2015 - Quite good, some very convincing, cool gangster violence, can't help feeling that this was episode 1 of a trilogy maybe? Worth a watch. Manglehorn 2014 - I like Al Pacino - this movie? Too boring for my taste. Arty in the sense that it looks at a very ordinary man, doing very ordinary things. Ordinary. A waste of a whole 97 minutes. 1984 1984 - Againilly, worth a watch, as valid today as then. Hannibal Rising 2007 - Now this was good, the boy who became Hannibal Lecter of 'Silence of the Lambs'. Well acted, nice twists, lovely gore, well worth a watch.

And your point that non muslims beat women, stands. I'm agin the beating of women, kids, dogs, cats, camels, goats by anyone. Even young men with beards and shaved heads. On the other hand, I quite like the idea that anyone guilty of beating someone, should be beaten in turn, roughly, and about 20% more. But then I have a fluid morality.

Aaah I see ---------- Two Femen protesters were arrested after baring their breasts at a controversial conference near Paris on the role of Muslim women. According to Inna Shevchenko, a spokeswoman for the feminist protest group, two fundamentalist preachers were discussing the question of "whether wives should be beaten or not" when the activists, aged 25 and 31, ripped off their Arab-style cloaks and jumped on to the stage at the weekend. One had the slogan "No one subjugates me" inked across her torso. The other bore the words "I am my own prophet". The protester grabbed microphones and shouted feminist slogans in French and Arabic before being roughly bundled off the stage by about 15 men and handed over to police. Video footage of the incident shows a man apparently kicking one of the women. According to Shevchenko, some of the men shouted "dirty whores" and "kill them". She thanked the police for protecting the two women, who were taken into custody. They were released after being questioned by prosecutors, who said they would continue investigating what happened. Conference organisers said they would press charges against the activists. They were not alone in taking exception to the presence of fundamentalist preachers at the event, where shopping and cooking were showcased as appropriate "feminine activities". One speaker at the conference has reportedly posted calls on social networks for women to veil their faces or risk hellfire and sexual assault in the afterlife. Nearly 6000 people signed an online petition against the event. Twitter posts called for the protesters to be stoned or collectively raped. http://www.nzherald....jectid=11513021 http://www.telegraph...e-on-women.html ----------

Don't blame me, I don't find these actions towards women any good at all, I've been careful not to blame "muslims" I only single out the young men who perpetrated the violence and noted the topic the activists interrupted. Just the facts.

Apparently the two white robed "clerics" they interrupted, were discussing, beating of wives.

At least one shaven headed, bearded, young man putting the boot into a woman on the ground. White shirt in this frame.