The anything BUT Viagra thread (esp. Testosterone)

[Guest]

This thread is being created with the intent to share current news/info. on topics related to maintaining a healthy male libido. This will not encompass issues of male erectile dysfunction, viagra, cialis or related chemicals. Seems to me though that many of our peers use, and/or abuse, these Erectile Dysfunction Drugs [EDD] in order to boost their performance in the sack when other substances might be far more beneficial and appropriate. So, off we go then...

 

Granted I've not made myself know on the forum yet, but this topic has been on my mind since I came home from my summer spent in the LoS at the end of August. I've not got a lot of time to contribute to it though so I'm really hoping it'll find it's own way and those amongst us with shared interests will keep it up...err UP!, and I do mean hard! :hubba:

 

Some background, I'm a SWM, 44 yrs, WASP, American, very fit, social drinker only, low blood pressure, with ideal body weight/fat ratio eat the right balanced diet etc. Who came back after 8 weeks of sanuk feeling utterly f*cked out. No ammunition in the gun belt so it seems. And, more interesting, (but situationally agreeable ) I still feel this way 3 months on, at home in the frigid west (USA). So, I've been poking around since then, doing a bit of research into the male libido and finding out some interesting things.

 

Also, I'm of the mind, that if any group of people ought to have an innate interest in maintaining a healthy libido it's the members here. But, I also think that for many of us (certainly me) the viagra route isn't an option as I've never had an erectile dysfunction issue, assuming of course you excluded the teeny tinny Thai condoms which only obfuscate things. ::

 

Anyway, here is a very interesting news story about a drug under development I'll bet one day we'll all be happy to try, called the- Barbie Drug

 

Another news story I came across today is quite long and talks mostly of the effects of alcohol on libido, but it also mentions testosterone levels being effected by alcohol too.

Acohol(libido) factfile

 

I've got Google programmed to feed me daily news stories on the topic and will post good ones here as they come along. But, I'd also be very interested to hear back from members (so inclined) who have any expericiences with testosterone supplements. Here stateside is no place to be trying it out considering the paucity of FL'ers, MP's and Thai honey's in general. banghead: Plus, the costs are said to be very high.

 

Would anyone here who's tried this testosterone supplemental therapy like to chare their experiences here? Thanks!

 

Gohok!

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As a followup, I was VERY impressed to read of Peter1964's 5 bullet :: Baron's encounter recently and would like to solicit his contributions.

 

Any dietary supplements in your medicine chest you could share with us? Not even in my best day could I have shot off 5 in 2 hours. Respect!

[Fiery Jack]

This post is being created with the intent to share current news/info. on topics related to maintaining a healthy male beer drinking habit. This will not encompass issues of male temperance, tea, non-alcoholic lager, soda pop or related useless chemicals. Seems to me though that many of our peers use, and/or abuse, these Beery Alcoholic Drinks [bAD] in order to boost their performance in the bar when other substances (tequila, vodka, bailey's irish cream and coke) might be far more beneficial and appropriate. So, off we go then...

 

Granted I've made myself known on the forum, but this topic has been on my addled mind since I sobered up from my summer spent in the LoS at the end of Jannuary. I've not got a lot of time to contribute to it though so I'm really hoping it'll find it's own way and those amongst us with shared interests will keep it up...err UP!, and I do mean hard-boozing!

 

Some background, I'm an alcoholic, 42yrs, dope-smoking Brit, very fat, heavy drinker only, high blood pressure, with ideal body weight/fat ratio for a 42 year-old alcoholic fat bastard, eat a balanced diet (can of special brew in one hand and large doner kebab in the other ). Who came back after 80 weeks of sanuk feeling utterly f*cked out. No ammunition in the wallet so it seems. And, more interesting, (but situationally agreeable ) I still feel this way 3 months on, at home in the frigid west (Stoke). So, I've been poking around since then, doing a bit of research into beer and prostitutes and finding out some interesting things.

 

Also, I'm of the mind, that if any group of people ought to have an innate interest in maintaining a heavy-drinking habit, it's the members here. :: But, I also think that for many of us (certainly me) the tequila route isn't an option as I've never had a high income, assuming of course you excluded the fencing of stolen car stereos I did during the 1990s. ::

 

Anyway, here is a very interesting picture of a fat bird scrattching her arsehole in the shower that I'll bet one day we'll all be happy to try, called the- Fat Arse-scratcher (just press "Go" and the bastard'll open).

 

Another photo I masturbated over today is quite filthy and speaks mostly of the effects of drugs on middle-aged women, but it also hints at alcohol levels being effected by alcohol too.

Fat Bird Pissed as a Fart and Ready for a Good Seeing To!

 

I've got a local barman programmed to feed me daily lager, and will post some good gags here as soon as I've had a quick nap. But, I'd also be very interested to hear back from members (so inclined) who have any expericiences with tequial slammers. Here Stoke-side is no place to be sober considering the paucity of taxis, ambulances, and decent looking hookers in general. Plus, the costs are said to be very high.

 

Would anyone here who's not tried boozing like to share their boring experiences here? Thanks!

 

Jack!

[rovineye]

Discussion of tequila is a hands-on experience! I will be happy to discuss at length, with props, at Cathouse Dec 14th!

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Jack- I'm honored to have elicited the parody. Well done sir!

 

However, still a bit confused, is libido in the vocabulary then? Tell me you're not interested in a woodie with your tan? The Barbie Drug piece is classic, eh?

 

If I read you right you're a man who cherishes your hangovers then. That being the case you'll want to avoid the blues-100% Agave Tequila's and quaff the amber shades. Darker the better!

[rovineye]

GohoK said:If I read you right you're a man who cherishes your hangovers then. That being the case you'll want to avoid the blues-100% Agave Tequila's and quaff the amber shades. Darker the better!

 

If only that were all true! If I remember correctly, Jack likes to partake of tequila shooters at BG7. That means he would be quaffing Sierra. That stuff is just plain nasty, packs a mean thumping head in the AM. BUT.. it is 100% blue agave,. researched the CRT #, not believing anything so vile could be made in the proper manner.

 

It is distilled by The Tequila El Viejito Distillery, located in the highlands of Jalisco and is the producer of such established brands as Aguila, Hussong's, Mi Viejo and El Viejo. This famous distillery has begun exporting another outstanding 100-percent blue agave tequila, La Fogata. But where they came up with this crap is beyond me. Sierra has cornered the Europen (market 50%) and 90% in many Asian countries.

 

So the blue agave, in the right state, in the right manner, is not always a sign of quality. Sad but true.

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You're right! I forgot one key point, it's gotta be a clear 100% blue agave.

 

Sierra must be an Anejo eg. the golden shades, either this, poor distilling, or both create the problem- hangover. Anejo coloring equates to hangover, period. Try Herradura silver (clear)100% Blue Agave and the hangover issue is resolved. Most, albeit not all, of the clear 100% Agaves are tame- distilling is everything in Tequila.

[rovineye]

I still don't agree. Sierra also makes a clear.

 

Anejo relates to the amount of time the tequila is aged, at least 1 year, in a government sealed oak barrel. The barrel in anejo is where the color comes from. In a mixto or a Joven abocado (which is a blanco with carmel coloring added) is the real nasty stuff 99% of the time, altho a blanco can be 100% B agave and tasty. Usually a home distilled item, but not always.

 

The Herradura silver you refer to is a blanco. 100 blue agave, and aged 40 days in oak barrels. It has a nice bite I like sometimes. I like every tequila made by Herradura! All excellent. Take that same silver, leave it in the barrel 10 more months and you have their Repasado, and it will be gold colored (not color added of course!) Wait another year, and yoy have their anejo. Fabulous stuff!

 

What mystifies me is how they can make so much tequila with good ingredients in the propper methods and have it come out so BAD and sell so cheaply.

 

There are only a few variables involved. The agave is blue and from jalisco. No problem there. It may be that they use only fresh oak barrles and poor quality at that, and are really seasoning the barrels for the better terquilas in their line.

 

The only other variable is the water. After the distilling process the raw tequila weighs in at about 130 proof. That MUST (by law) be cut back to about 80- 90 proof. It is either done by stopping the distilling process early (rare) or dilluting with water (almost all do this). But certainly they use good water. Right?

 

I just don't get it. Sierra starts with the same ingredients as Herradura, uses the same proces, ages it 10 months longer, and viola CRAP comes out!

 

And I don't remember what the original post asked, but since it was in the health section, I doubt it was this!

 

But GohoK (and others), I am bringing a few bottles of great tequila for free sampling at Cathouse the afternoon of Dec 14th! Espelon, and Don Julio I believe.

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Well, you know a lot more about Tequila distilling than I. Yet you don't mention hangover in this last post. Would you acknowledge the Herradura silver as hangover free? And what of the Herradura Anejo? Is there a correlation, in your experience, between hangovers and coloring, as in- Anejo=hangover whereas Clear/blanco= no hangover?

 

I know I have garnered a nasty hangover from the Herradura Anejo despite its common heirtage to the blanco. Alas, once I discovered the merits of the Herradura Blanco my research days passed and I settled into a fine hangover free Margarita experience. As an aside: I would encourage substituting the Triple Sec with Cointreau in your Margarita. Quite a delight it is. That is,assuming of course, you DO Margarita's. ::

 

I hope the two varieties you'll be packing (neither I'm familiar with) are hangover free then?

 

Ah yes, the original topic-- TESTOSTERONE

 

How about testosterone? What do you know of testosterone therapies in men? Any information concerning it in a replacement/supplement(ed) sense?

 

Anyone know of anyone pondering the enhancement of their's?

 

I thought (today) that perhaps it's a too sensitive topic, that posters won't want to divuldge their selves on the topic here abouts. Could that be true? If I get no responses I'll just have to do the therapy myself and report back then. So be it.

[rovineye]

[quoteYet you don't mention hangover in this last post. Would you acknowledge the Herradura silver as hangover free? And what of the Herradura Anejo? Is there a correlation, in your experience, between hangovers and coloring, as in- Anejo=hangover whereas Clear/blanco= no hangover?

 

I know I have garnered a nasty hangover from the Herradura Anejo despite its common heirtage to the blanco. Alas, once I discovered the merits of the Herradura Blanco my research days passed and I settled into a fine hangover free Margarita experience. As an aside: I would encourage substituting the Triple Sec with Cointreau in your Margarita. Quite a delight it is. That is,assuming of course, you DO Margarita's. ::

 

I hope the two varieties you'll be packing (neither I'm familiar with) are hangover free then?

Sorry. No, I can not say I have noticed a correlation. But I only drink quality tequilas and get no hangover from them. Most are colored (not color added) as I tend to prefer good anejo. I do like Herradura Anejo quite a bit.I suspect you may have a problem (mild allergy?) with the oak! If this is the case, the tequilas will give you a hangover and you should stay with the blancos, and maybe the repasado, since it spends less time in the barrel.

 

Cointreau is what I use also, or else Grand Marnier. Top Cat (of Cathouse) has promised to share a Thaigarita with us on the 14th, about 3 PM.

 

And as far as your oroiginal post, yes, for a few months I took an herbal performance enhancer. Not for ED, but just trying to up the quantity. Did it help? DOn't know. Too many variables. Don't remember what exactly it was. No noticable effects.