Chanchao Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 torrenova said:What you need is the highest possible chance of getting there in one piece and you do that by flying in the newest planes with carriers who would lose a whole lot more than a dodgy old aeroplane if it failed to get to the other end. Well sorry, but that's just nonsense.. What you're saying is you're going to fly something stellar, but then once in Bangkok you get into Somchai's Trusty Nissan Sentra cab to drive to Pattaya, where you will party the night away on alcohol & viagra with the local girls... If you think that makes sense then you're pretty much blessed with roughly the same amount of logic & common sense as your average bargirl. Somehow it seems to me that the risk you take for granded in the latter part completely eclipses the risk of flying over there, even if you did it on an Uzbek Antonov. Cheers, Chanchao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 About 1 year or longer, the investigation found out that Boeing had upgraded the plane but used inferior parts. The parts failed causing the plane to explode - killing everybody on board. I think the jury's still out on what caused the crash, but nobody's pointing the finger at Boeing. NTSB Safety Recommendation [color:"blue"]The accident airplane was delivered new to China Airlines on July 16, 1979. Records indicate that on February 7, 1980, the airplane experienced a tailstrike while landing in Hong Kong. Maintenance records stated that the tailstrike caused ?serious abrasion damage? to the belly skin of the aft fuselage section from fuselage station (FS) 2080 to 2160 and from FS 2578 to 2638. According to maintenance records, after first installing a temporary repair, China Airlines accomplished a permanent repair on May 25, 1980, by installing two external aluminum patches, known as doublers, from FS 2060 to 2180 and from FS 2598 to 2658,1 in accordance with China Airlines engineering recommendations and the Boeing Structural Repair Manual (SRM). However, the engineering recommendations applied only to the temporary repair. To date, China Airlines has not provided investigators with any detailed repair documentation (such as work cards or inspector signoffs) for the permanent repair. At the time of the accident, the airplane had accumulated approximately 20,631 cycles since the repair and a total of 64,810 hours and 21,398 cycles since new. The recovered wreckage from the accident airplane included the repair doubler installed between FS 2060 and 2180. The doubler, which was about 120 inches long, 22 inches wide, and 0.100 inch thick, was installed over the original fuselage belly skin between stringers S-49L and S-51R. Although, as noted above, maintenance records indicate that the repair was conducted in accordance with the Boeing SRM, several discrepancies were noted. Specifically, the Boeing SRM required that the damaged skin be removed before installation of the doubler. However, the damaged skin was not removed; the fuselage skin underneath the doubler exhibited severe longitudinal scratching. Some of the scratching was located just outside the left perimeter of the repair rivets but was still hidden under the outer edge of the doubler. Further, most of the rivets attaching the doubler to the fuselage skin were overdriven, and some of the parts used in the repair did not meet the applicable material specifications. 1 Two additional doublers were also installed on the aircraft but were not mentioned in the maintenance records?one between FS 2180 and 2240 and the other between FS 2484 and 2598.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 but then once in Bangkok you get into Somchai's Trusty Nissan Sentra cab to drive to Pattaya, where you will party the night away on alcohol & viagra with the local girls... ROFL. If Somchai operated a flying service, I wonder how many of us would be using it. :hubba: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultras67 Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 I have flown with them a couple of times and thought the service was on par with BA, KLM and above Air France. I think a lot of people are put off on the service side as they are dealing with cue dramatic music "furunurs" who wont/dont speak english. But I thought they were very professional anf dont have any complaints on that side - Air France is another story though :onfire: Cost wise, consistantly I found KLM and Emirates at the top of the list for best value whenever I did searches. As for planes crashing, well, if its your time, its your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli13 Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 very sensible account I can only 2nd it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Taiwan Says Crashed China Air Jet Missed Checks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 I flew China Air on a NY to ANC to TPE to BKK. All on an A340-400. Not the best plane for a tall person like me but still the most modern of their long haul fleet. I was terrified of the BKK to TPE 747-200. I saw rotting areas on the fuselage and the plane looked as if it were on its last legs. A340 again nonstop from TPE to NYC. Prices and times are right (to and from NYC at least) and I have never seen Chinese women look so good until I saw those flight attendants. Not the same Chinese women in the hole in the wall Chinese joints in my neighborhood. Food was ok to horrid. I skipped a meal actually because the fish was questionable (borderline rotten by the smell ugh!). In-headrest video and all the hot Chinese cup of noodles you could eat in between meal services. Actually they were the best noodles in a cup ever. BTW anyone know where I can score some of those? Maybe Chinatown NYC... Oneye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownFox77 Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 OneEye, Had a similar experience after flying the new A340 from Hono to TPE had to fly an old 747 that had me wishing I made out will during the flight! I liked both the Taiwan girls I saw on the plane as well as at the TPE airport, and they seemed friendly enough - if only I could speak some Mandarin... I liked both the cup-o-noodles China Air had and also the cup-o-noodles I get in LOS. In the US however what I've seen available is horrible, apparently 'Americanized' with added MSG or some other chemicals. The US version of those 'cup-o-noodles' leave my stomach bloated and a long lasting yuckee after taste as well. Hopefully some 'cup-o-noodles' savvy members here might know what we should buy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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