Neo Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Under DOD plan, soliciting prostitute would be a career-ending offense By Sandra Jontz, Stars and Stripes Pacific edition, Thursday, September 23, 2004 WASHINGTON Sex sells. Next year, troops buying it could face dishonorable discharge and jail time under a proposed change to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, officials told Congress on Tuesday. The Pentagon wants to add to the UCMJ a charge specifically addressing prostitution, and affixing a maximum punishment of one year of confinement and a dishonorable discharge for anyone convicted of paying a prostitute for sex, Charles Abell, principal deputy undersecretary for defense for personnel and readiness, told the House Armed Services Committee. And if approved, the charge would be applicable even in countries where prostitution is legal, Abell said. We will not be relying on host-nation laws, Abell said during Tuesday's issue forum on U.S. military progress to combat trafficking and prostitution. Abell anticipates the drafted Article 134 of the UCMJ will become military law early next year. It now is part of the 2004 annual review of proposed amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial that began this month, and is undergoing the mandatory 60-day public notice and comment period after being published in the Federal Register, Abell said. Making the change to the UCMJ makes the Pentagon's policy of zero tolerance more real to the servicemember, Abell said. It makes it more visible to that servicemember who might be tempted. Addressing prostitution will go a long way to tackling the problem of human trafficking, in which people are kidnapped and sole into virtual sex or labor slavery, Pentagon officials told Congress. Worldwide, there are an estimated 800,000 men, women and children who are victims of human trafficking, with some 17,500 of them in the United States, said Ambassador John Miller, director of the State Department Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons. The Pentagon also is working to make UCMJ changes to address human trafficking, both for sex and forced labor. Changes could include disciplinary action against someone who fails to report suspected trafficking and jail time and a dishonorable discharge for partaking in such acts, he said. And the officials said that they are working on getting the wording right so that the Pentagon could take contracts from companies whose employees are caught engaging in such acts, he said. While prostitution and human trafficking are still problems, progress has been made, particularly in South Korea, said Gen. Leon J. LaPorte, commander of U.S. Forces Korea. As part of our aggressive, ongoing efforts to curb prostitution and human trafficking in this area, our increased law-enforcement efforts have also resulted in the prosecution of more than 400 servicemen for related offenses, such as curfew violation and trespassing in posed off-limits locations,LaPorte said. USFK has list of more than 600 bars, restaurants and clubs forbidden to U.S. military personnel, LaPorte said. In recent months, U.S. military police and security forces increased undercover operations to identify suspected sites of prostitution and human trafficking, and all incoming troops received training and information about the problem, how to combat it and what happens if they don't, LaPorte told lawmakers. Fighting prostitution has become easier in recent years now that about 60 percent all military is married, LaPorte said. But USFK still has boosted television and newspaper media spots and ads warning single 18- to 23-year-old men in the military about the problems prostitution can bring, LaPorte said. --- Source: Stars & Stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 These assholes just don't get it do they...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 What happened to don't ask don't tell. It is still there so two guys can fuck each other in the ass in a hotel in Pattaya, Butch girls can dildo each other in a hotel in Pattaya but some holsum men cannot do what is completely natural and accepted as the only legal sex act in the UCMJ but if you pay for it you are a big looser! I thing the Lady Drinks will get very expensive and the and the sex becomes free. How and the fuck are they going to lock up 90% of the Military men visiting overseas ports? I did my military time and am proud to say that I did the P4P thing in Pattaya, Bangkok, Olongapo, Khaoshung, Hong Kong, San Diego, Seal Beach, Mazitlan and least I not forget Tiajuana. All as a teenager! What enlistments go down or will it become an all volunteer gay military! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 What enlistments go down or will it become an all volunteer gay military! ------------------------- Only if gays do not P4P too, I gather! On the other end, all those who complain about all these guys coming down in droves on Pattaya, comes May, should feel relieved a bit, no? Seriously, it's put in writing here, but I think even in the american corporate world, if a guy is nominally finger-pointed for having done the P4P deed, his promotion, maybe his career is seriously in danger. Think, some of you working in corporations, if a pix of one of you in pattaya/Suk, with one lass or 2 on your knees,found its way to the bosses above you or even around the floors you work, just saying "it' none of your F...g business" ain't going to buy you out of trouble. Let me know, i am standing to be corrected..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiLuk Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 This is astonishing. Would be hell for NCO's and officers to try to enforce. I checked and found this article, here are some quotes: >>>?This is a major step forward in ending modern-day slavery. In some nations, the U.S. military fuels the prostitution industry and thus our military becomes a major contributor to the international crime industries and to the social ills of nations where our bases are located,? noted Dr. Janice Shaw Crouse, senior fellow with the Beverly LaHaye Institute.<<< A true statement? If it is then there might actually be a compelling reason behind the policy. But I became inexplicably suspicious when the same senior fellow lady said: >>>?Anytime an American soldier goes to a prostitute it causes harm to a woman, girl or child created in the image of God. This crackdown on prostitution is an example of how presidential leadership influences policy... Best of all, though, this policy acknowledges that prostitution is inherently harmful to women,? Crouse said. <<< First of all what is this business of woman and girls being the image of god when we all know thats not what the bible says. Second, woman legally get paid for the sex they gave out during marriage its called alimony so how is it inherently harmful to woman to get paid? A retired colonel had this to say: >>>?Our soldiers are among the richest in the world. Today, U.S. service members can be found in 120 nations and too often some of our soldiers show the ugly side of America by soliciting prostitutes .? So thats our ugly side. I thought it was our bulging hairy backsides. It seems that the holy rollers have been given free reign over the uniform code of military justice. No more will the the GI's pay for SEX with locals thank god but I'm sure their is no risk that the holy rollers will outlaw our boys from dropping BOMBS on muslims. P127: Me thinks shore leave is now canceled during cobra gold. Seriously tho, this new rule will be one of those UCMJ rules that rarely if ever gets enforced. If the holy rollers continue to hold sway in the white house then it may be used for a few years before fading away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 The USA is one pussy whipped, politically correct nation. Excuse me but do they expect young men to not have sex for months on end. There could be interesting repercussions if this is ever implemented. An upsurge in homosexual activity, an increase in alcohol abuse and perhaps more internal violent incidents. All work and no play etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusty Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 A horney soldier is an inefficient soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 pattaya127 said:Think, some of you working in corporations, if a pix of one of you in pattaya/Suk, with one lass or 2 on your knees,found its way to the bosses above you or even around the floors you work, just saying "it' none of your F...g business" ain't going to buy you out of trouble. Let me know, i am standing to be corrected..... Well, this is going somewhat off topic, but it doesn't necessarily work that way and depends on the culture of your business, company, and particular group. A lot of guys who go for a traveling position in their career do it because they have a taste for the exotic. Going to faraway place gives unique opportunities to partake in a lot of eccentric things anonymously. What was the Leno joke about the salesman--"Hey, they did a movie about us called the lord of the rings. it's about a guy who travels around the world with his ring in his pocket". It can be beneficial to your career to have at least as risque likes as the boss and hang out at social outings because you will then be the one selected to go on business trips. Bosses sometimes like some fun and not as fun to bring a dud or someone who might bust your cover. Even client customers get in on the act. Some will be like "hey, the ACME guys are in town, are you guys ready for some fun tonight after the meetings?". Such happenings are not discussed afterwards so as not to offend anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALHOLK Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 The USA is one pussy whipped, politically correct nation. Not thr only one, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Reading between the lines here, there must be many horny women in the US military. Are they really that fugly? So who's gonna give one for the team? :bow: :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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