nordicman Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I might want to say this to my TG to put her in her place. I want to remind her that she is of a lower hierarchical position and she is not having consideration for my feelings. Do you think I can use this? I mean is it not obviously inappropriate? Say it as I spelt it? Tone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 You would be wise to pick up the book "Heart Talk" by Christopher Moore. It will give you all you need to discuss feelings with you gal (and it is written in English & Thai). Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaad Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Not sure I understand you. Greng Jai (mind someone's feelings) will not put her in her place. She will likely ask you WHY you feel greng jai, she'll be interested in your reasoning, which may put her in her place depending on the content and how you bring it. I understand the point you make that she's not having consideration for your feelings. But you also say you'd like to remind her of her lower hierarchical position :: Does this hold any relevance to the case? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordicman Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Zaad: I thought greng jai meant both the feelings part and the hierarcheal part. Since I am the older one with the money, wouldn't she have to yield to my greng jai? Maybe I am missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordicman Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Suadam: "Heart Talk", great thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Wouldn't she have to yield? Well, no. If she were a polite Thai she probably would so instinctively. If she doesn't, it means she doesn't want to or maybe just doesn't know any better. And greng jai does have its limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 "and the hierarcheal part. Since I am the older one with the money" From her and her familys POV you're on her level (and her age) in the hierarchy if you're thinking the thai way. If you're thinking it in a western way go on with that without involving thai thinking - even if I asscociate that with blackmail and bullying. :: elef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whosyourdaddy Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Greng Jai basically means I am too fucking lazy to do my job so I will say I am Greng Jai-ing someone else as an excuse to get out of work. Greng Jai is a concept that will keep Thailand a developing nation. Nobody gets any work done because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaad Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 That and the face-issue :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordicman Posted October 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Elef: I figure, since she has used all the tricks in the book, I want to have at least a couple of my own, not to put her down (really, 'cause I have yet to do that in 4 years), but to keep the situation from escalating. You see, I plan on breaking-up with her when I get back to Thailand. She has lied and lied to me since I was last there, has moved with all my stuff. I am just trying to get at least a bit of my stuff back---somehow--just looking at options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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