Guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Many posts on this allready exist, so forgive me, but even after using the rather sketchy search option I am still none the wiser. In a forum with many whoremongers, i would have thought some serious, usefull advice prevails.... but i cant find any. I have a personal problem with these drugs. maybe I have a dicky heart (at 32?), maybe I have a unique chemical reaction to the stuff, but i allways have bad experiences. Plus, there are so many variants, i'm not even sure anymore what is generic, what isnt, and what is a a blatent placebo. Viagra is a term used for any hard-on pill, but there are so many options all labeled as viagra, i am confused. And i need to find a specific solution the caters for me, as i have problems with the stuff. Viagra blue pill, Kamagra Gel and Plue pill, and the Indian red's dont realy work for me. Mild stimulation but not a full on hard on that lasts all night. Cialis, tried it once a year ago after reading rave reports, gave me a tickle of a hard on, thats all. But what pisses me off is the side affects i experience as a result. Full-on rushes 30 mins after dropping the pill/gell, followed by a headache that takes the fun out of the night (whilst i am out, drinking), and the next day...... fuck me, i cant describe the hangover man. When i was a younger dude, i used to partake in recreational drugs, and the hangover from viagra and its generic counterparts are almost on a par with a full boar coke come down, for me. Doom, depresion, anxiety, heart beating 160 all day, mild shakes, sick as a dog. Maybe its just me. I may have a dicky heart (next day after a vodie red bull session my heart goes crazy as hell all day). Or maybe i have a unique chemical reaction to these drugs. Of the very few times in recent years that i have taken recreational drugs (not many), i have simmilar reactions and hangovers. So, maybe its just me. Maybe I am intolarent to certain drugs. maybe not. maybe i have not found a winning pill yet. Does anyone else out there suffer this, even to a mild degree? I dont realy need the stuff. But when I do go out and hook up with a girl, i usualy get very drunk. And when i get very drunk, i go limp. i need the boost. I have been told so much about cialis as apparently this comes with no side affects. Maybe i purchased a fake generic - doubt it though, as it cost (if i remember right) 3500 for four pills and the Cialis TM leaflet came with the box. Didnt realy work. Can anyone confirm, once and for all, the daddy of all hard on pills/gels? Brand names? Where to buy? How much to take? I simply want to find something that gives me a rager of a hard on for 8-10 hours, increases the experience, and dosent make me fell like i have sniffed a quarter of columbian marching powder the next day. Any advice wuld be appreciated. I would also like to know if anyone experiences the same side affects as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magician Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 I use Kamagra, and I prefer it to Viagra. I find that it is stronger. Half a pill is enough for me to cut titanium with my dick. I get stuffy taking Vitamin K in any dosage, and if I take a full pill, I get a headache. When I take a half, I generally also take a couple of Actifed, and sometimes I have to use a nasal spray to keep my nasal passages open. I would not mess around with this stuff, were I in your shoes. Go talk to a urologist, consult a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibblies Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Batty said:.. i'm not even sure anymore what is generic, what isnt, and what is a a blatent placebo. Surely there's a way of telling... Generic name for Viagra is sildenafil citrate (I think). Pfizer discovered it and called it Viagra. Later, other companies copied it and called it by other names - Kamagra, Penagra, etc. It's all sildenafil citrate though. Cialis is a different chemical, discovered by Eli Lily. Its chemical name is Tadalafil and, again, there are generic versions of it from other companies. E.g. Apcalis. Levitra's another, from Bayer(?) Try Wikipedia Wikipedia for better information. The worst side-effects I've had with any have been slight flushing of the cheeks and more bloodshot eyes. I'm not a doctor but it sounds to me that your bad experiences are more a case of the prolonged effects of drinking too much alcohol and other stimulants - caffeine, sugar and chemicals contained in Red Bull, etc. You're just getting to an age where they start catching up with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe7e Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Hi Batty, I read your post with considerable interest, last year I was experiencing almost identical symptoms to yourself when using ED meds for a bit of a lift. The headaches got gradually wose to the point I stopped using the V and K altogether, since the pain wasn't worth the gain. This stopped the headaches, but the general fatigue and lack of stamina continued until around Christmas time when I woke up in the night with a pain in my jaw and a muscular ache in my arms. I didn't know it at the time but I was having a heart attack. :: Luckly I got away with it this time, and I am now sitting it out in the UK waiting for triple by-pass surgery before I can continue with my debauched lifestyle It's not my intention to scare you, there must be many other scenarios for the symptions you describe that aren't so dramatic. I would however STRONGLY URGE you to stop using the V & K and also the caffien enriched Red Bull until you get yourself checked for a posible problem (ECG, blood pressure, cholestrol level) it's painless, quick and cheap and could well be the best thing you have ever done. Do not ignore it and hope it will go away! If you would like any specific questions answered please feel free to PM me. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 you mite want to get Liquid Tadalafil so you can vary the dosage to a great degree. much more accurate than cutting pills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 I sippose I could just sto getting drunk when i partake in sanuk! No, bugger that. Comes with teritory... Cheers for the answers guys. I read as much elsewhere but was hoping there may be some new wonder pill on the market that works and does not leave me ill. I didnt know you could buy liquid Tadalafil. I'll fish around and try this for now, see what happens. Pe7e... Yes i recall a previous post of yours regarding the heart attack. Must have been a real, real scare for you. Good luck with the triple, friend. To be honest I have had problems like this for 7/8 years now. The most repetive/common thing that i suffer is random, nail bitting pain in my chest once every couple of weeks - feels like being stabed in my chest and upper back over and over for an hour. I cant lie down when it happens. And no its not indegestion! If i walk up a flight of stairs quick, my heart beats like hell for 5 minutes after. I have allways felt my heart is a bit dicky. On three occasions over a 7/8 year period i have had full check ups - ECCG - fine, Blood Preasure - high but not a worry, they once gave me a little black box wired up to electrodes for 48 hours to monitor my everyday life 5 years ago..... not a thing detected. So, i dont understand. Yesterday for example.... finished boozing early, around 6/7pm. By midnight i was sober, but could not lie down and hit to sit up in bed for a few hours before i could sleep, as my heart was baeting very, very quick. All of today my heart has been beating at around, i guess...13/140 when relaxing just from a few red bulls yesterday. Calmed down now but if for example i get up to go the toilet, when i sit back down it beats like hell again. My sypmtoms are wierd.... lots of little things, such as lying in be with a book, very relaxed and all of a sudden I am bolt up right cluthing my chest as i just had a MASSIVE palputation. Same with sleeping.... wake up from a huge, quick palputation. Loads of little things like this. This strikes me as weird for 2 reasons... firstly, im just 32. Secondly, i have been given the all clear 3 times. So i honestly have no clue what i was wrong. Three check ups with ECG, blood monitoring and the little black box would certainly have pulled up a dodgy heart. So, i suppose, i shouldnt worry too much. Sober, i wouldnt take viagra etc. I dont take them very often anyhow. But when i have had a few beers, i tend not to worry too much about anything, you know how it is. As i said though, it leaves me very, very ill. Starts off by almost sobering me up with the flushes, headaches etc and the next day i suffer all day..... headaches (severe) very high pulse.... wierd. The last time i did viagra, you could actualy see my heart beating the next day! Seriously, you could visibly see my chest beat and the veins in my temple, you could see them beating from feet away. Yep, i could stop drinking red bull (i dont drink it very often) and stop taking viagra (same, not often).... but as i said,, y'know what its like when you are drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffHello Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Batty said: I dont realy need the stuff. But when I do go out and hook up with a girl, i usualy get very drunk. And when i get very drunk, i go limp. i need the boost. I have been told so much about cialis as apparently this comes with no side affects. Maybe i purchased a fake generic - doubt it though, as it cost (if i remember right) 3500 for four pills and the Cialis TM leaflet came with the box. Didnt realy work. Can anyone confirm, once and for all, the daddy of all hard on pills/gels? Brand names? Where to buy? How much to take? I simply want to find something that gives me a rager of a hard on for 8-10 hours, increases the experience, and dosent make me fell like i have sniffed a quarter of columbian marching powder the next day. Any advice wuld be appreciated. I would also like to know if anyone experiences the same side affects as me. we cant know about your personal health , but my advice would be to make a choice between women or booze or you are gonna return home in a coffin like many of the germans in pattaya ,who also drink and take viagra . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffHello Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 do you get much exercise ? in a gym ? there are tons of variables that may affect your taking of V and the outcome. all that booze means dehydration and vitamin loss as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi BH. Ha, no exercise for me. Im out os shape, actualy. Still, at 32 years old..... no exageration, if i take viagra and drink i spend the whole of the next day walking around with my finger on my pulse. I just think i'll stop taking them. Easier choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumsoda Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hey Batty, All you need is a dose of SD's Avatar girl. Forget the Vitamins. You should have been at last weeks Gully's meeting....would have moved your handkerchief for sure... See posts under "Meetings".....If you are really nice to SD he may even organize a repeat appearance...lol... Mind you, babysitting can be expensive, the girl can drink !! Cheers Dumsoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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