Site Traces "O'Bama's" Ancestry To Ireland

[Steve]

I've always heard that there was a sizable amount of whites who had at least some black blood. I recall the 'one drop' rule years ago.

 

I did a quick google and found this.

 

http://www.isteve.com/2002_How_White_Are_Blacks.htm

 

And this part in particular from it, was what I was looking for:

 

First, more than 50 million whites, according to his analyses, have at least one black ancestor.

 

It would be nice to know if a few of those klansmen, as well as Falwell, had any black blood..hehehe...Farakhan has to have a bit of white blood, he's very light complected. lol

 

In a biology class, the teacher said if more people had children across racial and ethnic lines, that a lot of deseases that are particular to certain ethnic groups (sickle cell, etc.) would be wiped out. I'm doing my part, I date all kinds of women...hehehehe

[Flashermac]

I remember the Nation of Islam lot claiming that if you had one drop of black blood, you were black. This struck me as exactly the same thing the KKK claimed. Opposite sides of the same coin?

 

Back around 20 or 25 years ago, it came out that many white South Africans had some black African ancestry too. Seems the first Dutch settlers at Capetown married Hottentot women. That took a lot of the Apartheid supporters by surprise!

 

p.s. My high school biology teacher always said that racial prejudice would be almost impossible in another 100 years or 200 years, since everyone would be intermarrying and most people would be sort of light brown or tan.

 

 

[Steve]

The 'hot' thing nowadays is to try and claim some native american blood of particular tribes that run those casinos. Lots of anglo looking members of those tribes nowadays. I saw some sort of report some time ago a lot of tribal councils are kicking people out. They are saying the people are not really native american or not enough to qualify as such. The ones getting kicked out of the tribe are claiming that they are being kicked out so the revenue can be shared amongst a smaller pool. I have a feeling both are right. :smirk:

 

The U.S. government has pretty much given them autonomy to say who is and who isn't part of their tribe.

 

If the klan and the Nation of Islam are both right the Affirmative Action pool has at least doubled overnight...lol.

[Flashermac]

I think the tribes are now insisting that you have to be at least 1/8th to claim membership. That is one great grandparent. Seems people were trying to join a tribe because maybe one of their great great great grandparents was an Indian. That is 1/64th!

 

p.s. The article was a good read. Thanks for that. I'd heard something about black ancestry in Mexicans, but no one wanted to talk about it much.

 

 

[Steve]

A couple of the original 'spanish' settlers in LA were black I heard as well. My guess is former slaves or children of slaves. When I was in south america I was shocked at the number of blacks in places like Columbia, Venuezula, Nicaragua, Honduras and Costa Rica. I grew up around black Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Panamanians and Dominicans and thought that was it as well as Brazil.

With 80% of rap being bought by white kids, I would guess more than a few would love to have 'one drop'.

One of these days I may go to Wales and find my paternal great, great grandad's people. "...guess who's coming to dinner..." hehehehe

[junglesoup]

I remember my dad showed me a news paper cutting from a Los Angeles newspaper saying that Frank Kennedy was killed by a tram in 1927. Thats my great grandfather. They went to America back then at some point. He is buried in a cemetry in Los Angeles. However my granny tells me "Kennedy" has a Scottish origin to it...

[Fidel]

Kennedy may have Scottish origins somewhere along the line, but my village in Wicklow is full of 'em, and they're all over Wexford too.

[was_usvirgin]

My dad can't even figure out the origin of our family name. He, and lots of them are from Galway, but there's also a town in Armagh by the name, which means 'the hundred'. He suspects this may have had something to do with the Norman invasion, with some Viking blood involved. Very sketchy.

 

Spent a fair bit of time at my uncle's place in Wicklow as a kid (right above the ocean, did some sailing), and played some golf there about 10 years ago. Nice place.

[Flashermac]

I once met a fella from Guntersville, Alabama who'd been researching his family from south Alabama. He saw in the phone books that some folks with his family name still lived in that county. He went down there to the local library to do some digging, and he asked about those people. He said he noticed at the time that some good old boys peered over their newspapers when they heard that.

 

Anyway, he drove to the address he was given, and saw a young guy working out front on the engine of a pickup. He asked him if he knew so-and-so, and the fellow turned around. He said it was like looking in a mirror, only the guy was black. The man replied, "You mean my dad." He took him inside to meet his father.

 

The father looked like him too, if a bit darker. They shook hands and the fella from Guntersville spotted a framed photo on the mantle. It was a picture of his own grandfather! The older man told him that was his father. It seems white grandpaw had had himself a pretty "colored lady" on the side that grandmaw in Gunterville never knew about. The guy working on the pickup was the man's first cousin, and the papa was his uncle.

 

He said he didn't tell too many folks around Guntersville about his newly discovered relations.

 

Sweet home, Alabama!

 

 

[Flashermac]

Just remembered, the first settler in Chicago was a French mulatto. Thus the saying that the first white man in Chicago was black.