frede Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 From Dean's collumn Hi Dean, Last night, new year's eve, me and a group of expat friends ( 8 total ) went to the Mandarin club in Nana Plaza to finish the night. A majority of the guys in this group are regular customers of the place and big spenders, leaving 15K+ bills regularly. One of the guys disagreed on a 125 baht vodka bill, he paid it, everyone saw him pay it but one of the mamasans insisted that he didn't. No big deal the night went on ( as usual quite a few bottles were opened and paid for ). Except that when the 125 baht bill guy went to the bathroom he got assaulted by the "security service" dragged outside and badly beaten up, blood pouring all over the place and so on... Lucky for him I was leaving the place with my Thai gf and we stopped the beating. (of course no explanation, no "pay now or we hit you") So if you want to get beaten up for a small side bill you already have paid, I strongly recommend The "mandarin club" in Nana Plaza. Is there anything legal to do now? cheers, Jazz Hi Jazz, I am no lawyer but this being Thailand I would say you have just about zero legal recourse in this situation. If you have some pictures of the beating, etc., but even then I doubt the enormous effort to find justice in a society where rich kids in trouble just say "Do you know who my father is?" would pay off for you and your friend. This Thai attitude in bar areas in quite common. They ignore the money coming in that they will lose and the bad publicity and do stupid things, such as the mentality of the bartender in Angelwitch. I also heard the chick running Big Dogs told a guy to get out who didn't like the music. He and his friends were also big spenders there. The only thing you can do is vote with your feet and your wallets and avoid any place that gives you a raw deal. Getting involved with Thai police in nightlife scrapes is not usually a great idea. All the best, Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Smith Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Perhaps more to the story than has actualy been told? Guy gets the shit kicked out of him over 125 Baht? In a group of 8 people who may have spent up to 15,000 Baht? There may be a little more to this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Yes i think so as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Not necessarily. The owners might have enough sense to leave the guys alone who spend lots of money. But you expect the ordinary morons who work there to do so? Nah. Mamasans aren't Mensa candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man_ghon Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Witnessed an angry bouncer chasing a guy out of the plaza who then threw a beer bottle narrowingly missing the chaps head. There was a uniformed cop right there as in a few metres away who didnt do or say a thing nor was he asked to. I got stung in a top floor bar on one of my first trips and refused to pay the extra. I just sat outside and told them to call the tourist police. Dont know if its true but someone told me the tourist police charge the bar if theyre called in. Anyway they didnt call the police but fetched the plaza management who listened to my story and the waitressess. I refused to pay what I didnt owe and the management said I could go. Another bar and maybe it wouldnt have been a happy ending and the goons might have just dished it out there and then so dont think Im offering any advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man_ghon Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Also sometimes it seems to be a language breakdown. The other night a large, mean looking security guy from Bamboo Bar was itching to get a piece of a rude arab who the waitress mistakingly thought wasnt going to pay. The arab was loud and rude to the waitress but even I understood he was going to pay after he washed his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 The staff should be taught to ask first ..before going nuts ..imo.. Hey but TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samak Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 many bars have the customs that staff has to pay for unpaid bills (deduction from their salaries). that's why sometimes the reaction from some staff can be a bit harsh if they think that the customer is not going to pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwasp Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 This story is interesting, mainly because there are dozens like it on the web and I've never seen anything approaching it in real life. Yes, I've seen girls, mamas and other staff asking people to leave or being quite confrontational but never to someone who didn't have it coming; whether in general rudeness or just irritating behaviour. I don't think that high roller automatically equals good guy, and I certainly wouldn't dream of any "I make more in a day than you do in a month!" type comments I have heard some say. Question is (for the guys here who have been in LOS a while!) - am I just a naive tourist who's a bit green around the gills, or is a bit of common sense, politeness and generous tipping the way to a smooth evening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frede Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Generally, yes mate ...but here are exceptions. Im a happy drunk but I have taken grief before. Then again, my thai is advanced and I have a 'dont fuck with me' air about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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