'Islamic Jesus' hits Iranian movie screens

[Steve]

haha...never a G. Everyone from the inner city likes every one elese to think they were all Gs..lol. If that was the case, everyone would be dead. When you have a ton of older brothers (a couple who were thugs) and the other neighborhood thugs take a liking to you, you can be a nerdy boy.

 

 

[Steve]

As the legend that became Jesus became increasing popular, a ton of stories started coming out. Before the bible was formalized there were numerous stories about his childhood. A lot of them had him as a sort of Harry Potter in a sense, using his 'power' to do certain things, some of them getting himself out of trouble (which would eclipse the he was perfect and without sin). When they finally decided on which books would stay and stay out and which stories, the vast majorities of these were kept out.

 

Basically any story that either questioned his messianic legend or contradicted his deity and perfection was left out.

[Barry]

As the legend that became Jesus became increasing popular, a ton of stories started coming out. Before the bible was formalized there were numerous stories about his childhood. A lot of them had him as a sort of Harry Potter in a sense, using his 'power' to do certain things, some of them getting himself out of trouble (which would eclipse the he was perfect and without sin). When they finally decided on which books would stay and stay out and which stories, the vast majorities of these were kept out.

 

Basically any story that either questioned his messianic legend or contradicted his deity and perfection was left out.

 

Plus in those days, most people in Kashmir and Israel had absolutely no idea that the other existed, so the stories wouldn't have come together..

Personally, as an atheist, I'm interested in this from a historical perspective and because I like seeing religious conservatives being proved wrong (both in the 'facts' of their belief system and in the way they attach the name of Jesus to their unChristian lifestyle).

From what I've noticed, Islam tends to be more historically accurate than conventional Christianity btw..

[Steve]

Islam being the most recent, I would assume had time to weed out the bad stuff.

 

Actually the bible is very accurate about places. Archeologists use the bible to locate lost cities, etc. People..well...there are some evidence from other empires that certain wars and people existed as they fought the Hebrews/Israelites. The miracles and such are always debatable but there are a lot of things that are accurate.

 

The 3 religions are more religions of faith than facts. A lot of that stuff (miracles, God communicating to prophets) can't be proven. Convenient, some may say.

[Evel_Penivel]

Mohammed had a strong class feeling that Allah's prophets and messengers shouldn't suffer a dishonorable end. Orthodox Islamic tradition teaches that a phantom or apparition hung on the cross, while Isa (Jesus) was lifted into heaven. Some traditions (but not the Quran) hold that a body double (maybe even Judas) was crucified in place of Isa to deceive the Jews and Romans.

 

That was also the belief of the early sect called gnostics (although they held it was Simon of Cyrene, who carried the cross for Jesus, that was crucified). However, gnostics rejected the Virgin Birth, while Islam accepted it. During his time as a traveling merchant, Mohammed is believed to have come into contact with the teachings of many different faiths - Christians, Jews and others.

 

Evel

[Flashermac]

<< From what I've noticed, Islam tends to be more historically accurate than conventional Christianity btw.. >>

 

 

Ummm ... what part? The Angel of the Lord appearing to teenage Miriam and freaking her out with the news that she was going to have a kid? The unwed mother shamed by her village into going into the desert to give birth, and Allah feeling sorry for her - and making [color:red]POOF![/color] a cool stream appear by her feet and [color:red]POOF![/color] a fig tree loaded with fruit appear to give her shelter and food? Then after a few days of living on figs and water, Miriam takes her baby back to the village - and when people go tut-tut, the tiny infant Issa chews them out for mocking his mother, adding of course that God really isn't his father. (He's a "special creation".) Or maybe the part about Jesus allegedly saying that "another prophet was coming", one whose sandals Jesus wasn't even worthy to tie?

 

Also seems like Issa didn't say anything of note, or at least the Christians screwed it all up and it wasn't worth mentioning in the Qu'ran (which is the Words of Allah as spoken by the Angel Gabriel through Muhammad's [PBUH] mouth.)

 

Whatever ...

 

 

[Flashermac]

<< During his time as a traveling merchant, Mohammed is believed to have come into contact with the teachings of many different faiths - Christians, Jews and others. >>

 

M. was a camel driver in caravans and liked to sit around the camp fire and discuss religion with others. The Christians he met invariably were non-Trinitarian Gnostics. One supposes he adopted the virgin birth was because it just appealled to him. The reason he later had it in for the Jews so much was that some Arabic tribes had converted to Judaism, and that faith was a major rival to his own. Thus they had to be the villains.

 

[Evel_Penivel]

One of the explanations given for the idea of heavenly companions, the "black-eyed ones (houris), is that Mohammed had seen illustrations of angels in Christian Bibles. They looked like young women to him and he wanted to promise his followers something better than girls who played harps. Hence the idea of 72 virgins, although the number 72 is never mentioned in the Quran (but in hadith accepted as canonical).

Another explanation is that "houri" is an mistranslation of the Syriac word for white raisin, since white raisins were the top delicacy at that time in Arabia. So what he might have been promising his faithful were raisins, not virgins.

 

Evel