Torneyboy Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allistar Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'm not ready to applaud Bush on this matter but he did do "the right thing" in this case, whether it was done for moral reasons or just because he didn't want to look like someone selling pardons for cash/favors. If Marc Rich isn't fresh in most american's minds, the Ill. governor still is. I want to see what he does on his last two days in office and if Scooter Libby gets a pardon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 On another point, I am stunned at some of you. Is Bush "damned if he does damned if he does not" with you? Please tell me you're not noticing this for the first time today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 On another point' date=' I am stunned at some of you. Is Bush "damned if he does damned if he does not" with you? [/quote'] Please tell me you're not noticing this for the first time today. Not at all. Just pointing it out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted December 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 If a person is tried and convicted before a jury of their peers, how can the President (executive branch) overturn the valid conviction? Seems like something amiss on this one, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 US Constitution Article 2. Section 2 The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hey Cav, governors of a state have similar authority on a state level as well. For instance, they can and have stayed executions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted December 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Understand, but seems to spit in the face of the judicial system! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 On another point' date=' I am stunned at some of you. Is Bush "damned if he does damned if he does not" with you? [/quote'] Please tell me you're not noticing this for the first time today. Bush did the right thing. With respect to the rescinding of the pardon, the only thing you can get on him about is not vetting the person properly. That said, I suspect our friend Rogueyam would have had similar reasons to criticize Obama or any other Democrat if the same happened with one of them. I would still like the process to be revised with a constitutional amendment. Some of the framers were skeptical of it because it was open to abuse. They saw pardons from the king bought and sold in England and feared the same could happen. Their fears came to fruition. The pardon is too broad in scope and as such too open to abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I think the founding fathers wanted to give the president the same powers as a king at that time, even read somewhere that they thought about giving him the title "his (royal?) highness the president" before they decided it to be just "Mr President". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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