Usa Thread

[Flashermac]

I voted for Bob Dole against Stiff Willie. Dole is a disabled veteran who has almost no use of his right arm. (He was a university star athlete and intended to become an MD, but while serving in the Army he was hit by Nazi machine gun fire in Italy in April 1945 and left a cripple.) Running against the sleazy draft dodger Clinton, voting for Dole was an easy choice. Of course, most folks don't think like me.

[Steve]

The '96 ticket of Dole/Kemp was actually a damn good one but the timing was wrong. '90s, bull market, popular prez. Wasn't gonna happen. I especially liked Kemp.

 

Dole actually met with a lot of Black groups in the '90s. NAACP, etc. and I gave him much credit for going there, no press, just him and them to discuss mutual areas to agree and tried to explain why his views that were seen as conservative were actually good for them.

 

Kemp had a great idea while head of HUD to just scrap the public housing system and grandfather in long time residents to own their own apartments and in turn this would make the residents clean up the housing projects since they had a vested interest in increasing their property value. A trial project happened in St. Louis and they found it worked wonderfully. in fact, the rules the tennant/owners set up were at times stricter than the co-op rules of upper class manhattan apartments. ALso he said instead of losing money on maintaining housing, the government would make money off property taxes, etc.

 

He also championed enterprize zones to combaat urban unemployment. Companies would get tax abatements or reduced taxes if they moved production inner city. Also training and internships.

 

Of course all this made too much sense so it was scrapped.

[Steve]

Debtors prison making a comebacK?

http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/27/18380470-sentenced-to-debt-some-tossed-in-prison-over-unpaid-fines?lite

 

So, instead of putting people in jails that are already overcrowded as well as them becoming a financial burden to society by losing their jobs and having a criminal record, why not have these people work it off? Picking up trash, volunteering at all manner of places in need or even have them wear an electronic bracelet instead of jail time after work and take away their free time. Garnishment of a small percentage over time. Anything is better than jail for unpaid fines.

[dean]

Steve, I was referring to schemes that require several people to succeed. Whether its the person that brings in the customer, the person that actually does the paperwork or the official that is paid to turn a blind eye, in many of these schemes, there are too many people that can turn in the perpetrator in, if only to get a reduced or no jail time. I wouldn't trust anyone involved in a scheme that could turn me in because they were disgruntled or wanted to save themselves. Having family members as co-horts is a safeguard, but Robert DiNero had the right idea in "Goodfellas," when he started killing his co-horts in a multi-million cargo heist at JFK. That is the only way to insure secrecy.

[Steve]

yeah, you're right. Too many people its damn near impossible. its why I find some of these government conspiracies like 911 being staged hard to believe because of too many people, low level people having to be inolved.

[cavanami]

...and as long as the conspiracies appear to hard to believe, the governments will continue to do them!

 

9/11 is a no brainer...demo free fall of all the buildings? and the one building that came down and wasn't even hit by the planes???

[cavanami]

Extensive List of Politicians Paid Off By Monsanto

 

http://www.infowars.com/extensive-list-of-politicians-paid-off-by-monsanto/

 

Democrat, Republican, it doesn’t matter. As long as you can help Monsanto slide its icy tentacles into the food chain, then there’s some financial tip available to you. Thankfully, many such ties can be exposed through some data digging, and thanks to diligent readers who send comprehensive news tips and other researchers out there, we now have an extensive list of politicians getting paid cold hard cash from GMO juggernaut Monsanto.

Keep in mind these are the figures we know, which means that behind the scenes expect these numbers to multiply extensively. But what is most amazing is that these politicians just don’t care that you know they’re receiving thousands of dollars from Monsanto! They sweep it under the carpet, but they are openly taking money from this corporation that has been caught running ‘slave-like’ rings and disregarding public health. We’re talking about a corporation that primarily aided in the creation of Agent Orange — the Vietnam-era chemical weapon that killed over 400,000 people and led to 500,000 plus birth defects.

Looking at these figures, over $260,000 was openly pumped into the House, and $122,000 was pumped into the Senate. And again, this is openly. I’m speculating, but I would imagine the real number to easily be in the millions. Can you imagine how much they must pay these politicians to shoot down GMO labeling bills that 90 plus percent of the entire country wants?

Or how about the nice chunk of cash that Monsanto paid Senator Roy Blunt to ‘help write’ the Monsanto Protection Act that grants Monsanto immunity from federal courts? Roy’s cash payment is not included in this list, however RT reports he received $64,250 towards his campaign from the company. Surely they expected nothing in return.

Politicians Paid By Monsanto

House of Representatives:

Total paid by Monsanto to Democrats: $72,000

Total paid by Monsanto to Republicans: $190,500

Barrow, John (D-GA) $2,500

Bishop, Sanford (D-GA) $5,000

Boehner, John (R-OH) $10,000

Braley, Bruce (D-IA) $5,000

Camp, Dave (R-MI) $5,000

Cantor, Eric (R-VA) $10,000

Clay, William L Jr (D-MO)$10,000

Cleaver, Emanuel (D-MO) $5,000

Conaway, Mike (R-TX) $2,000

Courtney, Joe (D-CT) $4,500

Crawford, Rick (R-AR) $2,500

Fincher, Steve (R-TN) $8,000

Gardner, Cory (R-CO) $7,500

Goodlatte, Bob (R-VA) $4,500

Graves, Sam (R-MO) $5,000

Griffin, Tim (R-AR) $1,000

Guthrie, Brett (R-KY) $1,000

Hanabusa, Colleen (D-HI)$5,000

Hannemann, Mufi (D-HI) $1,000

Hartzler, Vicky (R-MO) $3,000

Holden, Tim (D-PA) $1,000

Huelskamp, Tim (R-KS) $2,500

Hultgren, Randy (R-IL) $2,500

Jenkins, Lynn (R-KS) $2,500

Johnson, Timothy (R-IL) $3,000

King, Steven A (R-IA) $2,500

Kingston, Jack (R-GA) $7,000

Kinzinger, Adam (R-IL) $3,500

Kissell, Larry (D-NC) $5,000

Labrador, Raul (R-ID) $2,000

LaMalfa, Doug (R-CA) $1,000

Landry, Jeff (R-LA) $1,000

Latham, Tom (R-IA) $10,000

Loebsack, David (D-IA) $5,000

Long, Billy (R-MO) $2,500

Lucas, Frank D (R-OK) $10,000

Luetkemeyer, Blaine (R-MO)$5,000

Lungren, Dan (R-CA) $1,000

McIntyre, Mike (D-NC) $1,000

Neugebauer, Randy (R-TX)$1,000

Noem, Kristi (R-SD) $1,000

Nunes, Devin (R-CA) $3,500

Owens, Bill (D-NY) $2,000

Peterson, Collin (D-MN) $10,000

Rogers, Hal (R-KY) $7,500

Rokita, Todd (R-IN) $5,000

Roskam, Peter (R-IL) $1,000

Schilling, Bobby (R-IL) $3,000

Schock, Aaron (R-IL) $5,000

Shimkus, John M (R-IL) $5,000

Simpson, Mike (R-ID) $10,000

Smith, Adrian (R-NE) $5,000

Stutzman, Marlin (R-IN) $5,000

Thompson, Bennie G (D-MS)$10,000

Thompson, Glenn (R-PA) $1,000

Upton, Fred (R-MI) $5,000

Valadao, David (R-CA) $2,500

Wagner, Ann L (R-MO) $10,000

Walden, Greg (R-OR) $1,000

Walorski, Jackie (R-IN) $2,500

Womack, Steve (R-AR) $1,000

Senate

 

Total paid by Monsanto to Democrats: $37,500

Total paid by Monsanto to Republicans: $85,000

Akin, Todd (R-MO) $3,500

Baucus, Max (D-MT) $1,000

Berg, Rick (R-ND) $10,000

Blunt, Roy (R-MO) $10,000

Boozman, John (R-AR) $5,000

Casey, Bob (D-PA) $2,500

Chambliss, Saxby (R-GA) $5,000

Fischer, Deb (R-NE) $5,000

Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY)$1,000

Grassley, Chuck (R-IA) $2,000

Hirono, Mazie K (D-HI) $1,000

Johanns, Mike (R-NE) $1,000

Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN) $5,000

Landrieu, Mary L (D-LA) $1,000

McCaskill, Claire (D-MO)$5,000

McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) $10,000

Moran, Jerry (R-KS) $2,500

Nelson, Ben (D-NE) $13,000

Rehberg, Denny (R-MT) $2,000

Risch, James E (R-ID) $3,500

Roberts, Pat (R-KS) $9,000

Stabenow, Debbie (D-MI) $8,000

Thompson, Tommy G (R-WI)$5,000

Wicker, Roger (R-MS) $1,000

Wilson, Heather A (R-NM)$2,500

[cavanami]

Here’s How We’ll Be Forced To Pay 146 Percent More For Insurance Under Obamacare

 

http://www.infowars.com/heres-how-well-be-forced-to-pay-146-percent-more-for-insurance-under-obamacare/

 

As states gear up to create the health insurance exchanges demanded under President Obama’s Affordable Healthcare Act they’re finding out that private policies for individuals aren’t going to be quite as affordable as legislators promised. In fact, in California, individual healthcare premiums will increase by as much as 64-146 percent.

As recently as last week, Peter Lee, executive director of California’s healthcare exchange, said that California’s version of the healthcare exchange would actually reduce premiums. “These rates are way below the worst-case gloom-and-doom scenarios we have heard,†boasted Lee.

But according to Forbes contributor, Avik Roy, Lee was comparing apples to oranges. An increase is inevitable because most of the current individual policies do not meet the mandates set forth by Obamacare...

[cavanami]

Obama to Sign U.N. Firearms Treaty Rejected by Senate

 

...and the treason continues....

 

http://www.infowars.com/obama-to-sign-u-n-firearms-treaty-rejected-by-senate/

 

President Barack Obama will soon sign an international arms trade treaty previously rejected by the United States Senate.

The United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) establishes regulations for international arms sales. Categories of firearms listed in the treaty includes tanks, artillery, and small arms such as handguns. The U.N. General Assembly passed the treaty on April 2nd with a vote of 153-4, with the United States voting in favor. Obama intends to sign the treaty on June 3rd.

On March 23rd, Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.) introduced an amendment to prevent the U.S. from entering into the treaty. It passed by a vote of 53 to 46.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) introduced another amendment to ensure “that the United States will not negotiate or support treaties that violate Americans’ Second Amendment rights under the Constitution of the United States.†This amendment passed in the Senate by a voice vote...

 

Due to the Senate’s response to the treaty, Obama’s signature will be symbolic at best. According to Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the President “shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur.â€

[cavanami]

...and has Prez O helped the USA citizens???

 

Cities where suburban poverty is skyrocketing

 

 

The number of poor people in U.S. suburbs rose by 63.6% between 2000 and 2011, from 10 million to well over 16 million people. For the first time, there are now more people living in poverty in the suburbs than in cities...

 

http://homes.yahoo.com/news/cities-where-suburban-poverty-is-skyrocketing-213342422.html