Flashermac Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Thaksin needs to make the sacrifice by Voranai Vanijakka Why should Thaksin Shinawatra make the sacrifice? It is because the amnesty that would whitewash his corruption convictions could very well lead to social upheaval. It could possibly lead to chaos and bloodshed. This is a road Thailand can ill afford to go down. The Senate is expected to reject the blanket amnesty bill, but that could simply delay the process. The parliament may still at a later date pass the bill into law. Or, the Pheu Thai government may back down and shelve the bill. Regardless of what happens to the current blanket amnesty bill, Thaksin needs to make the decision - to take himself out of the amnesty question for good. This means, suffer the corruption convictions stigma and stay out of Thailand for good. Is it fair that he should have to do this? Some will say yes, some will say no. Is it just? Again, some will say yes, some will say no. Is it necessary in order to save the country from falling apart? Just take a look at the reality in the streets. Could we instead ask the tens of thousands of protesters in the streets to stand down and go home, in order to save Thailand? Sure we could. But realistically, which is more likely – for one person to make the sacrifice, or for tens of thousands to make the sacrifice? At this stage, Thaksin isn’t going to change the perception that people have of him, whether good or bad or somewhere in between. In addition, he's apparently turning the perceptions of many of his own supporters against him, as many see blanket amnesty as a betrayal by him. On the other hand, for the past two-plus years of Thailand’s politics, anti-government groups have been able to tolerate the Pheu Thai government and his sister, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. This toleration means peace in the streets, allowing the system to move forward, albeit at a snail’s pace for the time being. Toleration is not ideal, but toleration is what has kept the country together for the past two-plus years, and that toleration is threatening to fall apart. If toleration falls apart, then chaos threatens to grip the streets. We must make do with the best that we have at the moment. Is it fair that Thailand’s political crisis is viewed as all about Thaksin? Some will say yes, some will say no. Is it just? Again, some will say yes, some will say no. But what is fair and just doesn’t necessarily paint the picture of reality. The reality is that whenever the name Thaksin comes up, Thailand goes nuts. So Thaksin needs to make the sacrifice. All Thaksin has to do is to just chill and enjoy life. Staying in mansions and six-star hotels around the world. Globetrotting first-class or in a private jet anywhere he pleases, except for Thailand. Enjoying red carpet welcomes at many Thai embassies, but possibly not all, it depends on the courage and conviction of each ambassador. It’s a lifestyle most people in this world would gladly have. Enjoy his riches; the riches that if many others have they may put to good use by donating to charities. Meanwhile, his sister runs the country on his behalf and at his behest. The parliament and government departments and agencies answer to him. Politicians and officials travel abroad to pay him homage and seek favours. Business allies receive useful insights and wonderful deals. His son is currently the darling of his supporters, ready to be groomed for future leadership. It’s not a terrible position to be in. In fact, life is quite grand for Thaksin. But all this could come to naught and Thailand itself could crumble, if he doesn’t make the sacrifice. So do everyone a favour, including your own family and supporters, and put the blanket amnesty bill to rest. The situation could be resolved as simply as one person getting over his ego and feelings of self-entitlement. Here’s the brutal truth, Thailand will be just fine without Thaksin. http://www.bangkokpo...oranai-vanijaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Rally at Ratchaprasong this evening Anti-amnesty protesters who gathered at Asoke on Thursday lunchtime have dispersed but will converge again at Ratchaprasong intersection at 5pm, the rally's organiser said. The Businessmen for Democracy Club announced the plan to reassemble in a speech to protesters who had thronged Asoke BTS station on Sukhumvit Road from noon until the lunchtime rally was called off at 1.30pm. At the rally, protesters - mostly office workers - blew whistles for one minute at 12.34pm in a show of defiance against the bill. They later sang the national anthem and the royal anthem before dispersing and agreeing to meet again at 5pm at Ratchaprasong intersection. The Businessmen for Democracy Club also organised two anti-amnesty rallies on Silom Road on Monday and Wednesday. http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/378673/rally-at-ratchaprasong-this-evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 PM urges protesters: Please stop ... She denied rumours that the government was prepared to use violent force to disperse the protesters by deploying military officers to the rally sites, saying only police will handle the situation and all security procedures will be carried out under the law. ... http://www.bangkokpo...ers-please-stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are the Police shields the prediction for this months lottery numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 << Some analysts say that by pushing an amnesty bill so aggressively, Mr. Thaksin and his backers might have lost the upper hand. "In sum, in his ill-considered and disingenuously implemented effort to award himself amnesty, Mr. Thaksin, within a few days, has transformed the political landscape in Thailand," Bangkok-based security and risk consultancy PSA Asia said in a note to clients. "His opponents are organized and energized. His supporters are split and angry." >> << To stop his amnesty bid, opponents of Mr. Thaksin will have to set aside some of their differences. Many demonstrators on Bangkok's streets Monday say they still view the Democrat Party as being latecomers to the protest movement. "All the protesters should join forces to increase their negotiating power, but in reality each group has some slight differences, and they can be hard to reconcile," said one demonstrator, computer business owner Thanopas Thansingthawee, 45. "The Democrats aren't the best political party here, but they're not as bad as Puea Thai," said another protester, 50-year-old Charae Prasitpant. >> http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303482504579176831135349694 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are the Police shields the prediction for this months lottery numbers? Hey, thanks! I hadn't thought of that. Let me write down those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Why was my post deleted? Who and why deleted it? It said the protests seem to be staged and coreographed and the protestors were not against any corruption, they will continue to live with the Police racketeering motorbike riders and car drivers. And other places where corruption exists. The protesters are only gathered for the event. Only against Thaksin. Did I offend anyone personally or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 It wasn't deleted you posted in the wrong thread http://t2.thai360.com/index.php?/topic/59630-7-reasons-why-you-really-shoudnt-move-to-cambodia/page__st__20#entry1405145 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I apologize to all the members and Mods. My bad. I am sorry. The post was (three dotted it there, where it was): Just wondering if the protesters are against any corruption or only Thaksin? Would they continue to live with Police racketeering motorbike riders and car drivers? And wherever back hand money is needed? Seems coreographed, a staged protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are the Police shields the prediction for this months lottery numbers? The second shield from the right doesn't have a number! What's that all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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