JJsushi Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 We have discussed this one before but what we find in the gogos are no different than what you would see in other places of employemnt for girls of low socio-econ status. Compare the gogos to factories, rice fields, hotel services in lower positions, hospitals in lower positions, etc and you will find the same percentages of above average, average and below average looking girls. Gogos and beer bars are nothing more than a representation of the low socio-econ class of the thai system. [color:purple] When did physical beauty become a variable or criteria of social or economic categories? Based off of your statement I will find the majority of "stunners" in rich or socially elite households. Your statement places too much weight on social and economic status and doesn't quite add up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Lazyphil, Unless you are an american or know about discount/retail shopping in america, you probably are misinterpreting my comment. K Market? K Mart like Long's Drugs, Wal Mart, Walgrens are well run retail chains that appeal to middle class america. Well, K-mart used to be anyway..........Hey. I love Long's Drugs.... The point is you get what you pay for. It is good value for low prices. It appeals to a wide audience because they are affordable.....They make their money on volume sold.... same as a gogo...... Let's not extrapolate (sp) this issue to your personal life unless that is what you wish to do. That is your choice...... Cardinalblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 JJsushi, Please go back and reread Smeg's comment about why he can't find only pretty women in the gogos. My remarks are a response to why one cannot. He made it sound like gogos have the luxury of beauty selection criteria and the girls are competing for desired "beauty" spots. That is not the case with gogos! They work for econonic need that doesn't require physical looks....... I did say certain professions and fields do select their hires based on physical looks. I said nothing about stunners in the upper or upper-middle Thai socio-econ classes. That is a completely different topic. I am strictly talking employment situations and how establishments can or don't have the option to choose employees based on "beauty" criteria. You are not clearly reading my comments because they probably don't agree with your own beliefs and perceptions or want to believe of the gogos/beer bar scene............... Cardinalblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 "Hansum_man, Your comments were out of line and I think an apology is in order. " i apologise, but only to keep u happy, as i believe i made a completely reasonable and valid point, expressing an opinion thats held by a significant proportion of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 You are not clearly reading my comments because they probably don't agree with your own beliefs and perceptions or want to believe of the gogos/beer bar scene............... [color:purple] No, I interpreted your remark to mean that those in a lower socio-economic group are less physically attractive. You referenced those who also work in factories, hotels, lower waged jobs etc, where the implication is that those in higher waged and better skilled positions would be physically more attractive or rather there is some genetic link between socioeconomic class and beauty. I disagreed with you because I fail to see the connection between physical beauty and social economic class, not on how I perceive the go-go/bar scene. I can see a connection between physical beauty and occupation where there may be some sort of selection criteria based on physical features but your argument specifically targets socio-economics as the reason. I believe that I clearly read your comments but then my interpretation may not be in line with your intention. color=purple> In reply to: We have discussed this one before but what we find in the gogos are no different than what you would see in other places of employemnt for girls of low socio-econ status. Compare the gogos to factories, rice fields, hotel services in lower positions, hospitals in lower positions, etc and you will find the same percentages of above average, average and below average looking girls. Gogos and beer bars are nothing more than a representation of the low socio-econ class of the thai system. It is not like they are applying for model, airline or marketing/sales jobs where looks are, in fact, used as a selection criteria....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 "I fail to see the connection between physical beauty and social economic class" such a connection doesn't seem too implausible to me - men like physically attractive women, and women like financially independent men -financially successful men are on the whole more likely to belong to higher socioeconomic groups hence there is a general natural evolutionary selection pressure which is going to bring rich men together with attractive women - thus concentrating the number of attractive women in the higher socioeconomic groups ie pretty poor girls get selected to the high socioeconomic groups whilst the ugly poor girls remain in the lower socioeconomic groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 such a connection doesn't seem too implausible to me - men like physically attractive women, and women like financially independent men -financially successful men are on the whole more likely to belong to higher socioeconomic groups hence there is a general natural evolutionary selection pressure which is going to bring rich men together with attractive women - thus concentrating the number of attractive women in the higher socioeconomic groups ie pretty poor girls get selected to the high socioeconomic groups whilst the ugly poor girls remain in the lower socioeconomic groups [color:purple] I guess in your ideal world it could happen but that ideal is galaxies away from reality for numerous reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 i wouldn't say it was galaxies away, at least not in the UK anyway i see these selection processes at work frequently - eg. having worked in hospitals for many years I've frequently seen the most physically attractive nurses (lower socioeconomic group) getting hitched with Dr's (higher socioeconomic group) - ask anyone that works in a hospital and they'll confirm this there was a study conducted by one of the national tabloids - observers sat in the high street of every major english city/town/district (at the same day of the week at the same time) and rated the first 100 women that walked past them onn a scale of 1-10 - it was found that the 3 places in the UK with the most attractive women were 1. Kings road, Chelsea, London 2. Kensington high st, London 3. Islington, London i don't think its any coincidence that these are 3 of the most socioeconomically affluent areas in England if i recall correctly, I think Dudley high st had the ugliest girls - also one of the nations socioeconomically poorest areas all other things (personality, interpersonal skills, etc) being equal pretty much all men would prefer a more attractive women - it stands to reason that men in higher socioeconomic groups are generally more likely to be successful in bagging one of the attractive girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 "Dude you better avoid bar brawls!" No worries there. The reason Im fat free is because I have a rigourous exercise regime and I am, lets say, quite good at karate. Overweight doesnt mean tough in my book. Mr P127, what do you want to know? Im posting on the nightlife section mainly, and talking about my perceptions of farang-based Bkk nightlife. If you want to know what I spend my daylight hours doing, its a mixture of exercise, training, improving my Thai speech and reading skills, a bit of sunbathing, and meeting GTG friends. I rarely talk to farangs these days, only when i meet up with friends at suk occasionally. Im fulfilling the wish to live as a Thai for a small period of my life, socialising mainly with thais, watching only Thai tv, listening mainly to Thai music etc. Its not that interesting, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 "it stands to reason that men in higher socioeconomic groups are generally more likely to be successful in bagging one of the attractive girls" I totally, totally disagree. If a girl is only interested in materialism, wealth etc, then it may be true. But many, many girls arent. They would rather be with a loving, romantic, honest, faithful guy who pays them attention rather than a "doctor". just because he has a well paid job. He might be the most selfish, uncaring, violent arsehole on the planet, so money means diddly squat. Some (parasite types) go for that, some don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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