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Here in Thailand the meds are called Quomem. Can be had in most pharmacies and they are not expensive at all. 150mg sustained release tablets. (bupropion hydrochloride)

 

First three days take 1 tab in the morning. On the fourth day take 1 tab in the morning and 1 in the evening.

 

Made by Glaxo Wellcome Inc.

Zebulon USA

 

Imported by GlaxoSmithKline (Thailand) Ltd

Bangkok

 

Have a look on the net for the drug and see what if any drug interactions or other problems you might have taking this stuff. This is a mild antidepressant and there are some side effects for some people. Everyone reacts differently to meds. So have a look see and find out if the drug is good for you. I can't take them, more's the pity, so I have the Nicotinell TTS 30 nicotine patches, which are fucking expensive here! (900 baht for 1 week's worth!)

 

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Never had a problem with booze or illicit substances, could always take or leave them, no hold on me whatsoever, in fact quite the reverse, but cigarettes will probably be the death of me.

 

I gave up for a year at one point, felt great, looked great, went to the gym, got super fit, had the sex drive of a rabbit on viagra...then I started again, the cravings never really left. Gave up via will power. This time it is so much more difficult. Sooooo much more difficult. I need to go cold turkey, but there's always a reason not to. Always a reason...

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I have been fighting addictions for most of my adult life, first got hooked on Tuinal when I was 13 years old, breaking into Doctors cars at the local health clinic to steal the perscription pads etc.

 

Tried most narcotics before I was 21 and even went cold turkey to get off heroin but for some reason I cannot kick ciggarettes and alcohol that easy.

 

As is well documenteted on this board I am an alcoholic and the way I combat my addiction is to not have alcohol at home (except for beer) it seems to work such as I have the addiction under control as far as I am able to go out with friends and be able to get a taxi to take me home which in itself is no mean feat since home is off the beaten track per se.

 

As for smoking, I don't smoke in the house and I have found that the liberaly applied non smoking laws in Thailand have cut back on my smoking whilst out. When Mrs M and I go to a bar that has smoking and non smoking zones we will sit in non smoking area to make the social experience more comfortable for her ... if I want to light up a tab then go to smoking zone or outside, it works for us.

 

All forms of narcotics are addictive but IMHO it comes down to the fact that the individual should be in a position to control the substance and not that the substance controls the individual.

 

I am still alive so doing OK!

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Well its been nearly 2 months off the smokes now, I am still get the cravings, but went down to the local village the other night for a few beers and to chat up the Nigerian hookers (and no i don't touch em). Only one person in our group smokes and i watched him smoke a packet of 20 malbroro red in about 4-5 hours. I just kept thinking how bad his chest was going to be in the morning. Booze has been less of a problem. One night of drinking in 2 weeks, and kept it under control. I will keep going forward from here.

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Hey Jack,

 

It seems as thought I have answered a similar post in the past. I smoked for 25 years and gave it up by putting smoking out of my mind. Plus I had walking pneumonia which made me unable to smoke. I believe that it is the hardest drug to kick.

 

I had a girlfriend that told me that she was at one time an alcholic, prescription drug addict and smoked. She kick the alcoholism with the help of AA, the second with perseverence and said that by far the worst habit to kick was cigarettes. For most people there is no easy way out. Try the aids that the responses have suggested.

 

Good luck to you.

 

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Well, I haven't had any cigarettes since my post above of 3/22. I did finish off the pack of Marlboro Lights - 5 cigarettes. None since 3/22.

 

Nicotine.

 

They say it takes about 24 - 72 hours for the nicotine to exit the blood/body.

 

After that it is behavior modification.

 

If one smoked as long as I have, there are so many things I do or did that either began with a cigarette or ended with a cigarette. Example: As soon as I enter automobile and drive - I light up a cigarette. Even if I had just had one in home or driveway or parking lot. At that point it is not the nicotine but just the force of habit and the nicotine.

 

I don't consider this 'quiting' cigarettes. Only a temporary cessation. I have quit too many times before only to go back. One time for a year. Another for 45 days. Another for 2 weeks. Another for 2 months.

 

As I stated, it's like a habit drinker. Cravings. If I could just have one 'more' cigarette - I would be alright. Just one. But that 'just one' turns into packs/days/weeks/months/years of smoking.

 

So now, I just have to avoid that 'one' cigarette. I have zero tabacco products in flat/home - so I am not substituting some other form/substance.

 

As I have read just like the AA program:

 

One day at a time.

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Good for you U731. if I think that I am giving up for life then i can't do it. So I am giving up one day at a time, seems so much easier that way. one of the things that did influence me to give up this time was hearing that ex coworker died of lung cancer at 56. I remember he was always trying to give up too.

 

 

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