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Bubi, I am looking for support, to tender a proposal, to the the mighty KS, to change the name of this thread, to "Whatever the Drumpf Clan are hawking now".

I've tried some of your 'thinking deeply', which has resulted in not only a good night's sleep, but the realisation that Trump Steaks could possibly make a re-appearance in the market and I like Steak.

Though how I could get Steaks from Trump's shop,  to Middle Earth,  in the midst of  this annoying Pandemic, is an issue I worry about.

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17 hours ago, Flashermac said:

BS. Other polls show Trump cutting Sleepy Joe's lead by over 50%.  The NYT polls were wrong four years ago, so why should we believe them now?

This election is still a toss up.

"The NYT polls were wrong four years ago" the one above is NBC News and The Wall Street Journal.

Whilst you are usually correct, there is one "llama  and a dead lizard against your face" aspect, that you've missed, I feel. In the last one, every one was like "Nah Trump's  so execrable he'll never win" and "Jeez that Hilary is awful".

In this one, the Biden, is not a deeply unlikeable character, with a visible 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' face, about to explode onto the stage.

And not a llama in sight, though there are dead lizards, and beans, dropping out from under Trump's coiffure,  regularly.

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28 million mail in ballots missing! Yet the demonrats are pushing for mail in ballots....geeee, nothing to see there, unless you see the 2020 elections about to be stolen!!!

Foreign countries printing counterfeit ballots!



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On 7/11/2020 at 1:25 PM, cavanami said:

Bubi, a simple google search would have helped you not to look so stupid...as usual you engage your mouth/keyboard before checking the data...President Trump has the least number of pardons over almost 200 years...

  • Franklin D. Roosevelt: 2,819 pardons
  • Harry S. Truman: 1,913 pardons
  • Dwight D. Eisenhower: 1,110 pardons
  • Woodrow Wilson: 1,087 pardons
  • Lyndon Johnson: 960 pardons
  • Richard Nixon: 863 pardons
  • Calvin Coolidge: 773 pardons
  • Herbert Hoover: 672 pardons
  • Theodore Roosevelt: 668 pardons
  • Jimmy Carter: 534 pardons
  • John F. Kennedy: 472 pardons
  • Bill Clinton: 396 pardons
  • Ronald Reagan: 393 pardons
  • William H. Taft: 383 pardons
  • Gerald Ford: 382 pardons
  • Warren Harding: 386 pardons
  • William McKinley: 291 pardons
  • Barack Obama: 212 pardons
  • George W. Bush: 189 pardons
  • George H.W. Bush: 74 pardons
  • Donald J. Trump: 10 pardons*

* Trump is serving his first term in office. Pardon count last updated on July 11, 2019.

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An example of arguing against a claim that was NEVER made. No one has ever argued Trump made too many pardons. People are saying he's pardoning the wrong person. 

As an aside and in fairness, there have been controversial pardons by Presidents of both parties. And to add some context. Some of  the high numbers of pardons by some are due to a class of people. They may have been non violent prisoners who were imprisoned for marijuana or those who avoided the VIetnam war, etc, 



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National polls mean nothing. Its the battleground states. The media trots out the national polls as if it means something. Its useless. The national polls were right about Hillary. She did prove them right, but it meant nothing if she lost in the battleground states. The polls of those battleground states showed Trump statistically even or ahead slightly. Polling is fairly accurate. Its a fairly exact science if the polling is done scientifically and statistically pure (large enough sample, broad enough sampling, etc.). 


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If things remain the same, the country is going to take a massive swing to the left. The right sees this coming. The senate is probably going to be gone. Dems will control both houses of the Congress and WH but the big difference is that more and more 'justice democrats' the term for the far left, democratic socialist, wing of the party that is growing and has AOC as their poster child. The reason why the right attacked her so much is because they see the writing on the wall. 

They can bully and out politic the establishment Democrats but the Ilham Omars, AOCs of Congress can't be bullied and will fight them tooth and nail. Ironically, the establishment Democrats (Pelosi, etc,) fear them more than the Republicans do. 

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If somebody would try a summary of Trump´s verbal or physical activities within the last let´s say 14 days any independent reader would call police or the men in white. I suggest to grant him the sole distribution rights for GOYA wafers for the Washington DC sales area and hope he forgets about being President. All this is not a comedy any more but clear sign for a widely spread national  lunacy if you for example note Cav´s findings about foreign countries counterfeiting 28 million ballots. Holy Lord.

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What is scary isn't that Trump has done this. Its well within his personality. It's that none of his supporters find this a problem. These same people will be crying bloody murder if the Dems do it. Which also brings up a scary thought in the lack of push back by Democrats. 


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