sayjann Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 read/heard something yesterday which i thought was very silly. representatives of the players involved have warned other clubs of legal action if the names are mentioned in chants from the terraces. if Liverpool fans chants names,how can LFC be held accountable? and what will the legal angle be?. how can you stop 30,000 people chanting things and then be held to blame?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted October 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Hi Lots of speculation there as well...clubs and players. Why hasn''t the story been put to bed so to speak if it is not all fact? Many legal threats ...taking a long time to get the full story...if in oz would be all over the news...true or not . Innocent until proven guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Jack Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Hmmn. This "story" seems to be getting "buried" in the media. Very odd. :: But the plot thickens a bit: this from yesterday's UK Daily Telegraph... Â Detectives to interview man behind 'soccer rape' case claims By Chris Boffey (Filed: 06/10/2003) Detectives are to interview a friend of Premiership footballers who claims that he and three other men had consensual sex with the girl at the centre of the soccer gang-rape allegations. Nicholas Meikle, who describes himself as a party organiser, said two footballers were among those who slept with the 17-year-old girl in a room at the Grosvenor House Hotel, central London, booked under the name of an England star. However, Mr Meikle said that the England player had taken no part in the orgy "and wasn't there at any stage with the girl". He also claimed in the News of the World that the girl consented to sex with him and three others, and stayed for breakfast the next day before leaving the hotel at 2.30pm. Mr Meikle said the two Premiership players who allegedly had sex with the girl were from different clubs. He told the newspaper that things turned sour only when the men gathered in the hotel room for breakfast and began discussing the night while the girl was in the bathroom. "I suspect she could hear bits of conversation and thought it was about her and we were laughing at her," he told the News of the World. "Even so, she stayed to eat." The newspaper claimed that Mr Meikle's statement was backed up by a sworn affidavit from another of the men allegedly involved. The girl has told police that she agreed to have sex with one player but says that up to seven players from another club went into room 316 of the hotel and raped and sexually abused her. Yesterday, Max Clifford, the publicist, who has been contacted by the girl's family for advice, said: "When I spoke to her she was sobbing her heart out. She totally refutes this version. She consented to have sex with one person, that is all. She is devastated." Mr Clifford said the girl, who he said had only recently left school, denied having had breakfast with the men and denied Mr Meikle's claims that there were only four men involved. "She has told the police the truth and hopes and prays that they will be able to get justice for her." The claims by Mr Meikle have thwarted the police strategy of keeping secret the names of anyone involved in the investigation. Commander John Yates, who is leading the inquiry, had said it was vital for "the administration of justice" that their anonymity be preserved. Detectives were anxious to collect all the evidence before interviewing any of the men involved or making any arrests. Now they may be forced to speed up what is described by Scotland Yard as a "most delicate inquiry." The graphic account by Mr Meikle of a night of drunken debauchery uncovers a sordid sex culture among young footballers and has revealed the term "roasting", described as "seducing girls with huge shows of wealth" and enticing them into degrading group sex and partner swapping. Mr Meikle said many of the players he knew would regard it as normal to share a girl. "The more I have moved around with footballers, the more I have seen they just share their girls around. There is a generation of young players coming up now who are all doing it." He said footballers could just click their fingers and get girls who were attracted by money and fame, and claimed that the night with the 17-year-old girl was nothing unusual until the rape allegation was made. '"Roasting"...', eh, :: '...described as "seducing girls with huge shows of wealth"...' ? sounds like me in action at Soi 7 beergarden. :hubba: jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Roasting"...', eh, '...described as "seducing girls with huge shows of wealth"...' ? sounds like me in action at Soi 7 beergarden. jack Hi FJ Buried here as well nothing in the papers since the story broke. :: Soi 7....only difference is these guys are young,fit,..oh and handsum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayjann Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 "Soi 7....only difference is these guys are young,fit,..oh and handsum" speak for yourself...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Hi sayjann Sorry did not mean to tar you with my FJ brush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaimaisabai Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Says torneyboy: Soi 7....only difference is these guys are young,fit,..oh and handsum Hi tb, .......and a huge show of wealth in the Grosvenor Hotel is probably a bit more expensive than a couple of Bacardi Breezers and a 500 baht ST tip in the S7BG. Khwai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaimaisabai Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Says fatbastard33: I cannot understand why several of these posts have been censored on this Board. If you want to know the identity of the alleged suspects try: www.myfootballforum.com and go to the posting which has had over 83,000 views!!!! Cheers Fatbastard33 Hi fb, Just had a quick look and it seems like it has been removed. I have heard by word of mouth who the alleged suspects are. Khwai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Hi tb, .......and a huge show of wealth in the Grosvenor Hotel is probably a bit more expensive than a couple of Bacardi Breezers and a 500 baht ST tip in the S7BG. Khwai Sure would be. Ha Ha ....Bacardi Breezers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carew66 Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 The story being 'buried' and the lawyers being so quick to litigation in protecting their 'clients' has little, probably nothing, to do with the niceties of pre-trial identification. For sure, it would be difficult to find 12 good men and true (jury) who had not been tainted with scurrilous news reports prior to the trial. It's hardly a unique position that they would find themselves in though. The judge would be careful throughout proceedings to ensure that the jury would concentrate only on the evidence presented, not what News of the World reckoned. No, consider instead the impact on the large company that is a Premiership football club. Watch those shares bouncing around. Whhooo! Of concern to me is the actual investigation itself. Why have none of the players been arrested? Arrested I'm talking about, not charged. It can be done ever so discreetly and in a civilised way y'know? You can even make an appointment so that you can turn up with your brief (solicitor). Could it be that there is not enough prima facie evidence to support an arrest? Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. Of course there is - the police have stated as much. 'Credible' is the word they used on Monday. Meanwhile, evidence is disposed of ,or degrades as time goes by. Rest assured - a non-celebrity subject to a similar allegation would have been dealt with very differently. What a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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