Guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 See no reason why you can't love someone who gives you physical pleasure. Sex is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for love. I was stating that some people think that it is also sufficient. Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 naiv said: See no reason why you can't love someone who gives you physical pleasure. Sex is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for love. I was stating that some people think that it is also sufficient. Best regards Actually I would disagree with you. I don't think that "sex" is a requirement for love between two people or even for a successful marriage. Also I don't understand how you can state that sex is a "necessary" but not "sufficient" reqirement for love? I think if it is necessary then it would have to be sufficient in some capacity to be a requirement for love. I assume you mean that there are several requirements that would constitute love? Sex by being neccessary per your statement would mean that it is integral or vital to love. So sufficiency would have to exist at some level. Maybe "sufficient" is not suitable for your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Hi Jeff, I understand exactly what you said, I just do not agree. If you are talking in some kind of secret code give me the "key" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmine Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 [color:"red"]Why do I love my BF?... Ans. NO reason.... this question was asked from my boyfriend also but i gave him that answer. [/color] Hello Sis, Many men and also women need to know why becuase it does compliment their personality and "ego". I find complimenting good qualities is a good way to make the "good things" better. Also, a good constructive critiques work well also, IMO, of course. Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 I guess if WO's Bf splits, and she asks why, he will be justified to not explain himself, just close the door, and say: no reason.... Chances are, she may thinks his is the correct behaviour too, in that case.... ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thalenoi Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 "i love him because he is a good man" That's basically what she tells me (I never asked...) To be more precise, she says I take good care of everyone (that includes my ex-wife and son), I don't drink or smoke, she is free to do/go whatever/wherever she likes, I don't give her orders (clean this, go buy food), when she asks something I try to fulfill her wishes (not always possible, I tell her why) It takes two to love, I think we fit very well toghether, dislike socialising, talking much, disputes, we always ask and consult each other (where do go we go to eat? or I am hungry now, lets go) We both dislike moving around, being on the road, we like "pen cha cha" (in no hurry, quiet life) As opposed to a couple living here, nit-picking all the time (can't you stop talking, eating?), he needs to go to Chumpon every day to buy his newspaper, talk to anyone he meets on the streets, drink a beer and chat with farangs, seems they never agree on anything....she needs to have lots of thai friends visiting their place, eating...not our style. I believe it took us one year to see our relationship evolve from an arrangement towards a concept of love, whatever this means... It's like good chemicals, no explosion, rather a good mixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Actually I would disagree with you. I don't think that "sex" is a requirement for love between two people or even for a successful marriage. I think that sex is a necessary requirement for love in the sense of love between man and woman. I don't think that it is necessary for a successful marriage though. (What is a successful marriage?) But I have no problem if you disagree. (But in your case it seems to be true). how you can state that sex is a "necessary" but not "sufficient" reqirement for love? I see that you don't know this concept (which I used in exactly the right way). Let me give you an example: In earlier days sex was a necessary but not sufficient requirement to have children. (If you wanted to have children you had to have sex, but if you had sex you didn't have necessarily children.) Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 I have no answers here...no one loves me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 naiv said: how you can state that sex is a "necessary" but not "sufficient" reqirement for love? I see that you don't know this concept (which I used in exactly the right way). Let me give you an example: In earlier days sex was a necessary but not sufficient requirement to have children. (If you wanted to have children you had to have sex, but if you had sex you didn't have necessarily children.) Best regards I understood what you were attempting to say but it doesn't make sense the way you say it. You are saying sex is "neccessary" for love but it is not "sufficient" for love. Unlike your children and sex example. You don't need to have "sex" to have "love" in a relationship. Children can be byproduct of sex because the purpose of sex is to procreate. Love is not a primary function or objective of sex. They can operate in complete vacuums, whereas if you have 2 healthy male and female adults the physical act of sex without artificial impediment should result in the creation of offspring. In order for your statement to be true there would have to be some level of "sufficiency" in sex in order to make it a "necessary" requirement of love. I think your error is using the term "neccessary". Maybe you are using diffferent definitions of the terms "sex", "love", "neccessasry" and or "sufficient" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 I understood what you were attempting to say If you did then you should critisize more precisely, i.e. you could simply stating that in your opinion sex isn't necessary for love (but then you would contradict, to a certain extent, your previous statements). And of course there are different types of loves (between parents and children, between friends, between male and female, ...). My statement is naturally applied only for the love between male and female. So maybe you are speaking about a different type of love. there would have to be some level of "sufficiency" in sex in order to make it a "necessary" requirement of love. I am not quite sure that you really understood the concept. But let us stop to discuss about the form and continue to discuss about the content: Do you think that sex isn't necessary for love? So what about your statements concerning divorces? And your girlfriends? Have you ever loved without sex? Of course you can love someone without sex, but most (all?)man who love a woman would like to have sex with her (and vice versa). What are the other necessary but not sufficient requirements for love? Are there any sufficient requirements? IMO, there are no sufficient single requirements. IMO necessary but not sufficient requirements are: 1) sex 2) respect 3) affectionateness 4) loyality 5) trust 6) fidelity 7) take care of the other (The list is not complete, isn't it?) Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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