check_bin_krap Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 It won't matter that much when it comes to the tourist income. In the long run, Thailand are better off closing those bars anyway... Its not fools who have decided this, they have a pretty good idea of who spend the bucks on holiday. The traditional single males do not make the high percentage like they used to. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo23 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 The "Big-Buck" people in the Oriental also might want to have a late dinner or a Mai-Tai or two after 10 pm, me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
check_bin_krap Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 "The "Big-Buck" people in the Oriental also might want to have a late dinner or a Mai-Tai or two after 10 pm, me thinks." Well, but its 1 am closing isn't it Christo? I can not imagine that 10 pm will happen at all, maybe 12 will. When I talk of other tourists groups, the Oriental ones is not the only ones I have in mind. Its become a destination for family holidays, backpackers and you name it. I do not think 1 am closing will have much effect on people when they choose Thailand or not. Airline tickets prices this xmas have been higher than what I have seen before (flights full), and I do not think its all horny single males... Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo23 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 I realize that it is 1 pm, sorry I think I misunderstood you. I agree that the non-p4p tourist will not care wether the closing time is 1 or 2 am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 It won't matter that much when it comes to the tourist income. In the long run, Thailand are better off closing those bars anyway... Its not fools who have decided this, they have a pretty good idea of who spend the bucks on holiday. The traditional single males do not make the high percentage like they used to. Interesting, but automatically self-justifying (and therefore unpersuasive) policy argument: "Its not fools who have decided this, they have a pretty good idea of who spend the bucks on holiday." Extended to its logical conclusion, whenever any government makes a policy decision, that policy decision is necessarily right because, hey, they have they have the facts ("they have a pretty good idea of who spend the bucks on holiday") and aren't fools. Every government makes foolish policy decisions, and to avoid an argument about the merits of the current government, I will simply observe that if you accept this modest axiom, you also have to agree that a sensible discussion about the merits of this policy decision cannot begin and end on the mere fact that a particular government made that policy decision. In many countries popular with tourists, they don't even have their evening meal until around or after 10 p.m. I doubt that your claim "the traditional single males do not make the high percentage like they used to" is true, but it really does not matter because the broad sweep of this policy will annoy more than single male tourists. Indeed, judging from some of the comments here, this policy will probably annoy other groups even more. TAT's objective for next year is a 20% increase in tourism. Thailand is spending a small fortune on a new international airport to attract tourists. Thailand's labour force is not skilled or productive enough to attract high paying jobs, and even if the proposed new changes to the educational system do work, it will take a generation before those changes begin to yield dividends. The night time industry, on the other hand, allows people with relatively low skills to earn substantially more than they could otherwise earn. Unreasonable prohibitions and limits on consensual behavior fuel selective enforcement and corruption, particularly in countries where the rule of law is thin (which, of course, is not the case in Thailand : Shouldn't the market (customers and bar owners) decide operating hours? Why should we interfere with the market on this issue? Exactly what policy objectives is an earlier closing time going to acheive? There are so many obvious starting points for objecting to the proposed earlier closing times that I don't know where to begin. Who knows if the government will eventually try to enforce 10 pm closings, but I think it is quite a stretch to suggest that it is sensible policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith doug Posted December 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 well i am a regular visitor to LOS ,,, but i for 1 wont be back in 2004.I will give spain a go i think at least its nice to stroll around at 3am there..r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 >> I will give spain a go i think at least its nice to stroll around at 3am there..r << And what I have heard it is very cheap. ST only USD 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 And farang food everywhere Phfew, no Som Tam at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtimer Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 I must confess that the 0100 hrs. closing time won't be a problem for me as I usually start to long for my bed by that time. However, I agree that it will be quite a serious impact in a city known around the world for its night life. It seems to me that the PM's main concern focuses on young Thais, not tourists. Thus, it would make some sense to allow bars/clubs in tourist areas such as Pattaya and Patong so keep open later. The PM appears to be a great admirer of Singapore. Why doesn't he simply introduce similar bar hours as pertain in that country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusty Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 stumpdog said:I shall be taking my first trip to the Phillipines this year after 9 years of visiting Thailand. This will be my last trip visiting Bkk for the nightlife so at least I can say I saw it in all its glory ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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